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Hey, WoD,

I don't know how this site handle PM notifications yet, so I wanted to let you know that I sent you a PM with some build ideas. The build isn't quite ready for sharing, but I wanted to get some feedback from you about it.

Thanks, in advance.

MasterZoen
Sep 27, 2019 07:26:04 AM

This build is viable, boys. Just did the Red Elder deathless. Nothing good dropped, but got an exalted orb a minute later :)

SauMaris
Sep 27, 2019 23:57:19 PM

I like:
at every stage levl is cheap equipment - the one with lower statistics is cheaper and playable. I don't have to do only trade to buy equipment, to play. I play and it's cool. Your filter is very useful in this. Does the cold and fire damage of the Sister Cassia tower affect monsters as much as ours? I mean, do you avoid them too, do they affect EE? Thank you very much for a clear, understandable bulid. I have a central atlas before me :)

narval2113
Sep 29, 2019 15:21:02 PM

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narval2113 wrote:
I like:
at every stage levl is cheap equipment - the one with lower statistics is cheaper and playable. I don't have to do only trade to buy equipment, to play. I play and it's cool. Your filter is very useful in this. Does the cold and fire damage of the Sister Cassia tower affect monsters as much as ours? I mean, do you avoid them too, do they affect EE? Thank you very much for a clear, understandable bulid. I have a central atlas before me :)


Only players can proc EE, NPCs do not.

MasterZoen
Sep 29, 2019 16:51:05 PM

This was very very good build i get portal.time to test another you build.
Looks like i try you duelist build...want to kill something by myself,not just watch how zombies and skillies destroy all :)

Korpivaellus
Sep 29, 2019 17:01:38 PM

@towers and EE; I'm assuming fire and cold do extra damage from your EE procs just like the zombies/skeletons. I mean, I get the question, the towers don't proc EE, like previously noted. I think they do extra damage from our EE?


Zombie on!

Also, this build is awesome. Having a blast with it.

Pip_n_Tip
Sep 29, 2019 19:10:03 PM

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MasterZoen wrote:
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Thanks a lot for all the feedback! Will try to consider it, but so far I'm mostly just unlucky and try to get better items, before I play around with colors and slots.


Btw., what is about that one here?
Earendel's Embrace
Grinning Fetish
Click to expand
  • 18% increased Elemental Damage
  • +29 to all Attributes
  • Minions deal 30% increased Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons Cover Enemies in Ash on Hit
  • Summoned Skeletons take 29.2% of their Maximum Life per second as Fire Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons have Avatar of Fire
  • There the weary multitude of man-kind

    shall turn in their masses into the wide fire,

    where the destroying flame embraces the living,

    some will go up, some down, filled with misery.

    Firderis
    Sep 30, 2019 00:08:08 AM

    @firderis

    I'm approaching 91 now and imho as I start to get an idea of what gear works, nothing beats a good rare convoking wand.
    I foresee the only unique I'll be wearing is my golem ring.
    ...and possibly the amulet will be unique.

    Pip_n_Tip
    Sep 30, 2019 05:05:15 AM

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    Firderis wrote:
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    MasterZoen wrote:
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    Thanks a lot for all the feedback! Will try to consider it, but so far I'm mostly just unlucky and try to get better items, before I play around with colors and slots.


    Btw., what is about that one here?
    Earendel's Embrace
    Grinning Fetish
    Click to expand
  • 18% increased Elemental Damage
  • +29 to all Attributes
  • Minions deal 30% increased Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons Cover Enemies in Ash on Hit
  • Summoned Skeletons take 29.2% of their Maximum Life per second as Fire Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons have Avatar of Fire
  • There the weary multitude of man-kind

    shall turn in their masses into the wide fire,

    where the destroying flame embraces the living,

    some will go up, some down, filled with misery.



    I played with that early on in this build, I will tell you that your skeletons will pop very fast. If your minions have no additional resistances from your skill tree, ascendancy nodes, or skill gems like Purity of Elements, then your minions all have a base 40% in all resistances. This means that your minions pop from Infernal Legion's Burning DOT dropping their health to 35% triggering Minion Instability in @4 seconds. If you equip Earendel's Embrace, then the skeletons take additional Burning DOT, so they will only last 2-3 seconds before popping. That's not really all that useful save as pure Skeleton Bombs, but they may not actually have time to get close enough to an enemy to damage them when they pop. Additionally, the Avatar of Fire is almost worthless on them in this build since they likely won't have a chance to attack before popping and causes skeletons to do LESS damage per attack because of enemy Fire Resistance.

    Giving your minions more Fire Resistance will reduce the Burning DOT from both Infernal Legion and Earendel's Embrace, but they still pop really quick! At gem level 20, following this build exactly, they would take 2,370 damage per second while having 13,741 life. This means they would pop in 5-6 seconds. Without that weapon, they would pop in 10 seconds. Infernal Legion would deal 11k+ damage per second for a total of more than 113k damage normally. Earendel's Embrace would enhance the Infernal Legion damage to 12k+ but cause them to pop after only doing 70k+ damage; a net loss of nearly more than 40k damage. Even if they manage to hit and cover an enemy in ash immediately upon spawning so that the enemy takes 20% more fire damage they would only do a total of 105k+ damage from infernal legion before popping. It's only worth it if they manage to hit a second time, at which point they would do nearly 130k damage. They can only do damage via attacking every 2 seconds, so they could theoretically do a total damage of 154k+ damage via 3 attacks and Infernal Legion DOT over 5-6 seconds with the Earendel's Embrace before popping versus a theoretical 315k+ damage via 5 attacks and Infernal Legion DOT over 10 seconds without it.

    It's not worth it in my opinion, even with the 30% damage bump to your other minions you still end up reducing your skeleton damage by almost half.

    MasterZoen
    Sep 30, 2019 17:43:30 PM

    Hey Everyone! I hope everyone is doing well, having fun, and trading kindly.
    I'm excited to play this build tonight.

    Thank you again to all the kind folk who help others out on the thread so kindly.


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    SauMaris wrote:
    Spoiler
    This build is viable, boys. Just did the Red Elder deathless. Nothing good dropped, but got an exalted orb a minute later :)
    Congrats on the Red Elder kill SauMaris (and the Exalt). Some of the Elder maps can be harder than the Shaper for sure. Those mods can make the battle really rough. Especially Vaaled. Great job!
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    narval2113 wrote:
    Spoiler
    I like:
    at every stage levl is cheap equipment - the one with lower statistics is cheaper and playable. I don't have to do only trade to buy equipment, to play. I play and it's cool. Your filter is very useful in this. Does the cold and fire damage of the Sister Cassia tower affect monsters as much as ours? I mean, do you avoid them too, do they affect EE? Thank you very much for a clear, understandable bulid. I have a central atlas before me :)
    Thank you very much narval2113! I'm glad you're enjoying it and that the guide and filter are helpful. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. Minion builds are always my favourite.

    And the others are correct. EE can only be applied by users. Minions, NPCs, and Towers only take advantage of it.

    Good luck the rest of the way! Let us know if you have any more questions.
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    Korpivaellus wrote:
    Spoiler
    This was very very good build i get portal.time to test another you build.
    Looks like i try you duelist build...want to kill something by myself,not just watch how zombies and skillies destroy all :)
    Thanks Korpivaellus! Glad you liked it. I love the blocking build. It's SO fun and a very different playstyle than this minion build. Let me know how it goes!
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    Pip_n_Tip wrote:
    Spoiler
    @towers and EE; I'm assuming fire and cold do extra damage from your EE procs just like the zombies/skeletons. I mean, I get the question, the towers don't proc EE, like previously noted. I think they do extra damage from our EE?


    Zombie on!

    Also, this build is awesome. Having a blast with it.
    Thanks Pip_n_Tip. I'm glad you like it.

    Zombie on.
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    Firderis wrote:
    Spoiler
    Thanks a lot for all the feedback! Will try to consider it, but so far I'm mostly just unlucky and try to get better items, before I play around with colors and slots.


    Btw., what is about that one here?
    Earendel's Embrace
    Grinning Fetish
    Click to expand
  • 18% increased Elemental Damage
  • +29 to all Attributes
  • Minions deal 30% increased Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons Cover Enemies in Ash on Hit
  • Summoned Skeletons take 29.2% of their Maximum Life per second as Fire Damage
  • Summoned Skeletons have Avatar of Fire
  • There the weary multitude of man-kind

    shall turn in their masses into the wide fire,

    where the destroying flame embraces the living,

    some will go up, some down, filled with misery.

    Hey Firderis. You can get some really strong Rare Convocation wands which is what I'd suggest long term. That weapon will decrease the rate at which your skeletons explode. So it's useful if you think the skeletons don't die fast enough. So only use it if you're really focusing on the skeletons in combat.

    Have a great Monday everyone! Thanks again to everyone being so helpful in asking questions and responding. And for everyone playing (those that post or don't) I hope PoE is treating you well.

    Wrecker_of_Days
    Sep 30, 2019 22:04:21 PM
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