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Meatshield could potentially be very good in non-minion builds, like Blood and Sand.


Its going to be a Minion Support... meaning it will only support minions. And just slapping minions on any non minion build for extra defenses will never work considering even fully investment minion builds still can have issues keeping minions alive in high tier maps as it is.

Demonoz
Aug 23, 2019 20:27:29 PM

Get Animate Guardian, give him Victario's Flight, support it with Meat Shield. Boom, free 10% move speed that works all the time (unlike now) for just 2 sockets.

Aynix
Aug 24, 2019 07:43:41 AM

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Demonoz wrote:
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Meatshield could potentially be very good in non-minion builds, like Blood and Sand.


Its going to be a Minion Support... meaning it will only support minions. And just slapping minions on any non minion build for extra defenses will never work considering even fully investment minion builds still can have issues keeping minions alive in high tier maps as it is.


Good very high life spectre + minion life + minion res+ meat shield + ranged build is probably enough to prevent random oneshot / killed while afking, in the off chance the mobs don't get instantly killed from afar. Some spectres can get very high life, as far as I know.

aConcernedPlayer
Aug 24, 2019 10:28:42 AM

That was a good one... Have you ever used zombies? They run around you, I dont see any point of having that gem connected with zombies.

lolcaaa
Aug 24, 2019 10:52:25 AM

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lolcaaa wrote:
That was a good one... Have you ever used zombies? They run around you, I dont see any point of having that gem connected with zombies.


Looks like you are the one who never played Zombies. They dont run around you. They run to a place where you clicked. The moment you used any skill on a monsters (to curse them or to "tag" them) they just run away from you.

Aynix
Aug 24, 2019 11:25:57 AM

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Aynix wrote:
Get Animate Guardian, give him Victario's Flight, support it with Meat Shield. Boom, free 10% move speed that works all the time (unlike now) for just 2 sockets.


Why stop there. Go Kingmaker. Free 50% crit multi, culling strike, 30% IIR, and fortify.

NexiieQT
Aug 24, 2019 11:52:52 AM

Yes i will probably use meatshield for zombies, support spectres or golem/guardian. Not sure yet. But it's a good support gem.

kompaniet
Aug 24, 2019 14:26:44 PM

Depends on the numbers, there are plenty of circumstances in PoE where a zombie block around you gets you killed instantly i'm not really sure its a desirable support. Dead enemies do no damage is kinda the mantra of the whole game i'd probably prefer they ran off to rumble.

Draegnarrr
Aug 24, 2019 14:42:51 PM

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Draegnarrr wrote:
Depends on the numbers, there are plenty of circumstances in PoE where a zombie block around you gets you killed instantly i'm not really sure its a desirable support. Dead enemies do no damage is kinda the mantra of the whole game i'd probably prefer they ran off to rumble.


"Dead enemies do no damage is kinda the mantra of the whole game" - ummm...what?! https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9ipwv6/the_amount_of_ondeath_effects_is_getting_out_of/

Exile009
Aug 24, 2019 15:55:44 PM

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Demonoz wrote:
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Meatshield could potentially be very good in non-minion builds, like Blood and Sand.


Its going to be a Minion Support... meaning it will only support minions. And just slapping minions on any non minion build for extra defenses will never work considering even fully investment minion builds still can have issues keeping minions alive in high tier maps as it is.


Good very high life spectre + minion life + minion res+ meat shield + ranged build is probably enough to prevent random oneshot / killed while afking, in the off chance the mobs don't get instantly killed from afar. Some spectres can get very high life, as far as I know.




Could be possible if the support gives a nice amount of % minion life AND a nice chunk of Elemental All Res as well. Resistances is even more important for minions in endgame for keeping them alive. Fortify is also pretty good for this as well. Plus you have to consider this is a 4L you invest for this as well. Could be something though just have to see the numbers on the support i suppose.

I did this on my RF Necro running Bloodbond before the Offering nerf on Necro and my Spectre's were pure support (Apes that give frenzy and power charges) and even with it being Necro i still had issues with them dying sometimes to endgame content even with making them pure tanks and using them for utility only. Even with them on a 5L.

Another thing you might want to consider though is if you do use this on say a Ranged build you are going to also have to consider things like Multiproj+Chain especially Chain... Doing this as you want to do is going to make Chain one of the most deadly mods you can run on a map. Keep that in mind. Thats something you also have to keep in mind on minion builds chain becomes quite deadly because of all the minions to chain from. Can actually start causing random one shots. Theres a Pantheon that helps a ton with this though youll probably want to run in this case.

Demonoz
Aug 24, 2019 16:57:00 PM
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