Forum Index Duelist [3.8] RECKONING (Counterattack) Gladiator Build. Let them kill themselves! UBER ~2 min! BOSSES AFK

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P0WERB0TT0M wrote:
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The base damage got higher though. Need to see the numbers in POB. Maybe can be used outside of Facebreaker now


Did you get a chance to run the numbers yet? Or is that not possible until after Blight actually starts?


The numbers against the max level and max quality (20, +20%) was provided by GGG. I broke the formula down and it's pretty much what was stated earlier with approximately 66% reduction in overall damage from Reckoning.

So, he had ~2.5 million average damage (not DPS) through PoB. Without potions all active, it's only 1.5 million avg dmg. That's 1.5mil with damn near perfect gear in Standard (not Blight). As the drop was ~66%, let's apply that.

1,505,618 * 0.33 = 496,853

2.5mil (Start)
1.5mil (-Potions)
497k (after nerf)

That's still powerful, but no longer as overpowered as he is advertising it. It can trigger 3 times per second, assuming tons of incoming attacks, which can still bring the DPS up to around 1.49mil. Again, to be clear, THAT REQUIRES MULTIPLE HITS PER SECOND INCOMING.

So, there ya have it. Still viable with perfect gear, but not really overpowered anymore. </3

Hateborne
Sep 05, 2019 23:45:30 PM

I need to correct something. The Duelist's Gladiator ascendency has a point named "Painforged". This doubles damage from counterattacks.

THIS DOES NOT REFLECT IN PATH OF BUILDING!

That being said, with perfect gear as he has shown, the damage would still be ~992k per Reckoning.



Apologies for the misinformation!

Hateborne
Sep 06, 2019 02:02:24 AM

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Hateborne wrote:
I need to correct something. The Duelist's Gladiator ascendency has a point named "Painforged". This doubles damage from counterattacks.

THIS DOES NOT REFLECT IN PATH OF BUILDING!

That being said, with perfect gear as he has shown, the damage would still be ~992k per Reckoning.



Apologies for the misinformation!


Looks pretty solid still.

Have you considered the buffed effectiveness of damage?

According to gem info:
Now deals 115% of base damage at gem level 1 (from 91%), up to 175% at gem level 20 (from 140%).

So a level 30 Rechoning should have base damage of 205%.

Comparing with 166% base damage pre-patch, it should be another 25% more damage increase.

1.2 million damage per Rechoning is still quite viable.

kutreels
Sep 06, 2019 07:28:22 AM

We will see once the patch hits guys. I will go to standard and test on hydra :)

Angry_Roleplayer
Sep 06, 2019 09:40:14 AM

I'm really hoping this build remains viable since I was going to use it as my league starter. I'm not so much after the max DPS, but survivability, which shouldn't be impacted.

I guess the upside is since this isn't meta prices of facebreaker and the surrender should drop a bit with less demand.

Pinkalicious
Sep 06, 2019 14:48:22 PM

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Pinkalicious wrote:
I'm really hoping this build remains viable since I was going to use it as my league starter. I'm not so much after the max DPS, but survivability, which shouldn't be impacted.

I guess the upside is since this isn't meta prices of facebreaker and the surrender should drop a bit with less demand.

survivability is not affected at all.

Angry_Roleplayer
Sep 06, 2019 17:59:02 PM

Been enjoying this build o ton in blight! Just about to start cheesing uber lab and save up for surrender shield. I use shield charge + faster attacks for more map clear speed and it goes great.

Current gear so far:

Abyssus
Ezomyte Burgonet
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  • +21 to all Attributes
  • Adds 40 to 60 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +121% to Melee Critical Strike Multiplier
  • 102% increased Armour
  • 46% increased Physical Damage taken
  • When you have slain all of your enemies,

    what is left to fear?

    Tabula Rasa
    Simple Robe
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    Facebreaker
    Strapped Mitts
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  • +30% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • 10% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold
  • 735% more Physical Damage with Unarmed Attacks
  • Extra gore
  • Fly like a Storm Crow, crush like a Rhoa

    Empyrean Goad
    Vaal Greaves
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  • 76% increased Armour
  • +74 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Fire Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +20% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • Lycosidae
    Rawhide Tower Shield
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  • +12 to maximum Life
  • +130 to Armour
  • +30 to maximum Life
  • Your hits can't be Evaded
  • +4% Chance to Block
  • Adds 250 to 300 Cold Damage to Counterattacks
  • A true predator does not chase; It waits.

    Rigwald's Curse
    Wereclaw Talisman
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  • +36% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • +7% to Unarmed Attack Critical Strike Chance
  • Modifiers to Claw Damage also apply to Unarmed Attack Damage
  • Modifiers to Claw Attack Speed also apply to Unarmed Attack Speed
  • Modifiers to Claw Critical Strike Chance also apply to Unarmed Attack Critical Strike Chance
  • I once thought the First Ones were just

    stories made to scare children.

    But I've seen what they can do. I've felt it.

    And now I must live with that terrible knowledge.

    Rage Turn
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +15% to Fire and Cold Resistances
  • +28 to maximum Life
  • 17% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +40% to Fire Resistance
  • +21% to Lightning Resistance
  • 32% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Dragon Turn
    Gold Ring
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  • 8% increased Rarity of Items found
  • 22% increased Fire Damage
  • +7 to Evasion Rating
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • +47 to maximum Life
  • Wurm's Molt
    Leather Belt
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  • +30 to maximum Life
  • +22 to Strength
  • +21 to Intelligence
  • +18% to Cold Resistance
  • 0.4% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • 0.4% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana
  • They say a lifetime of wisdom is carried

    in every skin the great beasts shed.

    blobota
    Sep 08, 2019 01:36:49 AM

    hey Angry_Roleplayer, IYO is this still good for all endgame, or its nerfed with 3.8?

    drunkydragon
    Sep 08, 2019 22:50:55 PM

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    Angry_Roleplayer
    Sep 08, 2019 23:08:07 PM

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    drunkydragon wrote:
    hey Angry_Roleplayer, IYO is this still good for all endgame, or its nerfed with 3.8?

    OK to clarify for EVERYONE: The build still works, and even though it's definitely nerfed. The damage went from 4.6 million in pob to 1.3x2=2.6 million.
    Still does the job, just not one-shotting guardians anymore lol. I did Phoenix and he still killed himself in about 10 seconds.

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Sep 08, 2019 23:08:08 PM
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