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kartumax wrote:
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kartumax wrote:
I know that's a kinda common question to ask. but It will be viable at the Blight League? I'm looking foward to do this build, It seems pretty fun.

Also I'm wondering if it is possible to be a league starter and what shield and how to fit Reckoning until The Surrender.

Will be viable for any league as it does not use any league gear
Starter is good indeed, but will take some time to get the shield. But if you get lucky on currency you will get one very early on
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Great_Old_One%27s_Ward
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Thousand_Teeth_Temu
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye%27s_Remorse
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Deep_One%27s_Hide
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Daresso%27s_Courage



Thanks so much for the reply! I'll definetly try it out on Blight. I still dont understand how do you manage Cyclone (on the mana side) on the build, and where to stick Reckoning until the The Surrender but I'll try it out! I'm really pumped up to it, actually comming back to the game to try this build Hahahhaha

good question btw! Will add it to FAQ section
Cyclone is a little tricky. First you will be playing with Wurm's Molt belt which leeches mana with attack damage. Next when you unlock tier 2 "reduced mana cost"(tier 3 takes a while and is NOT NEEDED) betrayal mod you will craft it on a ring and your Cyclone cost will go down from 9 to 7. You will still have 2 mana cost and when you drop the Wurm's Molt you will slowly but steadily loose you mana anyway.
Next step is to get reduced mana cost on the tree:

By getting the FIRST node you immidiately drop mana cost from 2 to 1 and can naturally OUTregenerate the cost.
For the REckoning : while levelling simply put it in the boots or helm along with Vengeance and Riposte + Melee phys/pulverize.

Angry_Roleplayer
Aug 27, 2019 15:39:04 PM

According to guide, Griswarld amulet is recommended. However, in the build we take no claw nodes so we could benefit more. Is the amulets crit modifier so high that we do not need to care about the "unallocated" claw nodes?

Wouldn't the anvil amulet or other amulets be recommended?

Thank you for the guide is quite fun to play with it :)

Cannibal_Pulse
Aug 29, 2019 07:39:47 AM

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According to guide, Griswarld amulet is recommended. However, in the build we take no claw nodes so we could benefit more. Is the amulets crit modifier so high that we do not need to care about the "unallocated" claw nodes?

Wouldn't the anvil amulet or other amulets be recommended?

Thank you for the guide is quite fun to play with it :)

Its only for base unarmed crit. Claw nodes are too far away and not worth it

Angry_Roleplayer
Aug 29, 2019 08:35:51 AM

First of all the build is very tanky. I am at level 70 and already doing T16 corrupted maps just have to avoid mods like less block chance. Other than that really enjoying it. Here is my current gear and its not even min maxed I simply grabbed whatever I have in my repository.


Also I didnt buy facebreaker with curse simply vaaled and it gave me curse.


Starkonja's Head
Silken Hood
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  • +69 to Dexterity
  • 50% reduced Damage when on Low Life
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 25% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 127% increased Evasion Rating
  • +95 to maximum Life
  • 150% increased Global Evasion Rating when on Low Life
  • There was no hero made out of Starkonja's death,

    but merely a long sleep made eternal.

    The Surrender
    Ezomyte Tower Shield
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  • +39 to maximum Life
  • Grants Level 30 Reckoning Skill
  • 156% increased Armour
  • +75 to maximum Life
  • Recover 250 Life when you Block
  • +6% Chance to Block
  • +1500 Armour if you've Blocked Recently
  • Our hearts cry out

    but are silenced by our flesh

    and so we give up our flesh.

    Belly of the Beast
    Full Wyrmscale
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  • 184% increased Armour
  • 37% increased maximum Life
  • +12% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • Extra gore
  • There is no safer place

    Than the Belly of the Beast

    Facebreaker
    Strapped Mitts
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  • Curse Enemies with Level 12 Vulnerability on Hit
  • +30% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • 10% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold
  • 798% more Physical Damage with Unarmed Attacks
  • Extra gore
  • Fly like a Storm Crow, crush like a Rhoa

    Seven-League Step
    Rawhide Boots
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  • 50% increased Movement Speed
  • "Death can be outrun with these, but beware!

    In running from death, you may forget to live."

    - Icius Perandus, Antiquities Collection, Item 202

    Beast Knot
    Unset Ring
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  • Has 1 Socket
  • Adds 3 to 7 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +79 to maximum Life
  • +40% to Fire Resistance
  • +43% to Cold Resistance
  • -7 to Total Mana Cost of Skills
  • Rigwald's Curse
    Wereclaw Talisman
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  • +33% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • +7% to Unarmed Attack Critical Strike Chance
  • Modifiers to Claw Damage also apply to Unarmed Attack Damage
  • Modifiers to Claw Attack Speed also apply to Unarmed Attack Speed
  • Modifiers to Claw Critical Strike Chance also apply to Unarmed Attack Critical Strike Chance
  • I once thought the First Ones were just

    stories made to scare children.

    But I've seen what they can do. I've felt it.

    And now I must live with that terrible knowledge.

    Belly of the Beast
    Full Wyrmscale
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  • 184% increased Armour
  • 37% increased maximum Life
  • +12% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • Extra gore
  • There is no safer place

    Than the Belly of the Beast

    Belt of the Deceiver
    Heavy Belt
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  • +27 to Strength
  • 24% increased Global Physical Damage
  • You take 30% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes
  • +40 to maximum Life
  • +13% to all Elemental Resistances
  • Nearby Enemies are Intimidated
  • In battle, virtue matters not.

    Only victory.

    Surgeon's Divine Life Flask of Heat
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  • 20% chance to gain a Flask Charge when you deal a Critical Strike
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • Surgeon's Sulphur Flask
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  • Creates Consecrated Ground on Use
  • 20% chance to gain a Flask Charge when you deal a Critical Strike
  • Sin's Rebirth
    Stibnite Flask
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  • Creates a Smoke Cloud on Use
  • Gain Unholy Might during Flask Effect
  • Immunity to Ignite during Flask effect Removes Burning on use
  • And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud.

    The Sin of one became the Sin of many.

    Superior Quicksilver Flask
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    Caustic Sanctified Mana Flask of Steadiness
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  • 60% increased Mana Recovered
  • Removes 15% of Mana Recovered from Life when used
  • 58% increased Block and Stun Recovery during Flask effect
  • sha587
    Aug 29, 2019 11:08:14 AM

    Why are you using impale as build doesn't have 100% impale chance. Wouldn't this simply make impale not stack properly and wasted ?

    Why not use infused channeling ? What gem should I replace with infused channeling.(I am able to take infused channeling as I am using unnatural instinct near scion bottom area for extra )

    Is amulet really that good and it cant be replaced. If it can be what is good alternatives ?

    Would lethal pride gives any extra bonus

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    Chance to Block Attack Damage is doubled
    Chance to Block Spell Damage is doubled
    You take 50% of Damage from Blocked Hits

    sha587
    Aug 29, 2019 11:20:17 AM

    And I have also killed guardians at level 72 with crap flasks.

    sha587
    Aug 29, 2019 17:16:59 PM

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    sha587 wrote:
    Why are you using impale as build doesn't have 100% impale chance. Wouldn't this simply make impale not stack properly and wasted ?

    Why not use infused channeling ? What gem should I replace with infused channeling.(I am able to take infused channeling as I am using unnatural instinct near scion bottom area for extra )

    Is amulet really that good and it cant be replaced. If it can be what is good alternatives ?

    Would lethal pride gives any extra bonus

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    Chance to Block Attack Damage is doubled
    Chance to Block Spell Damage is doubled
    You take 50% of Damage from Blocked Hits

    Basic impale support is more than enough to stack impale.
    Infused channelling requires a lot of int.
    Without the amulet you cannot crit with unarmed attacks.
    Lethal pride is not needed since block cap is easy to reach by default

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Aug 29, 2019 17:25:16 PM

    Thanks for the build, I'm really enjoying this as a novelty. Certainly makes for a tanky build. Got a few questions, given the current state of my gear.

    1. I know the "rage" question was answered as used by "Reckoning", but the flavor text concludes with:

    "
    with weapons


    Double checking against POB, I can't find evidence that Rage stacks are actually benefiting the Reckoning hits. What am I missing?

    2. If Rage isn't helping, seems like "Pulverize" or "Maim" be a good gem to slot in it's place in a 5 or 6L setup for the cyclone links (at least if you don't have the maim on the body armor.

    Pinkalicious
    Aug 30, 2019 14:25:21 PM

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    Pinkalicious wrote:
    Thanks for the build, I'm really enjoying this as a novelty. Certainly makes for a tanky build. Got a few questions, given the current state of my gear.

    1. I know the "rage" question was answered as used by "Reckoning", but the flavor text concludes with:
    "
    with weapons


    Double checking against POB, I can't find evidence that Rage stacks are actually benefiting the Reckoning hits. What am I missing?

    2. If Rage isn't helping, seems like "Pulverize" or "Maim" be a good gem to slot in it's place in a 5 or 6L setup for the cyclone links (at least if you don't have the maim on the body armor.

    1) Unfortunately Counterattacks are in a grey area of POB and it can't handle them properly. For the same reason Painforged does not reflect 2x damage.
    I will ask Openarl to check it, but considering the amount of feedback he gets i doubt we will ever have a reply :)
    https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/issues/1651

    2) I would still use RAGE as it gives a lot of movement speed and attack speed for Cyclone.

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Aug 30, 2019 19:18:42 PM

    Added a cool video where i killed Shaper without Attacking: https://youtu.be/DIc-owZ1fR4

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Aug 31, 2019 11:01:18 AM
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