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lapiz wrote:


Expensive as shit:
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Tornado Shot and Barrage still alive in pvp?


A good bower to take on these builds would easily cost you +/- 15-16 mirs.

If you are talking about league than, no, this is not league viable, you must have legacy just-about-everything to deal good damage.

I also do not think certain items exist still. You might want to consider if it is worthwhile investing that much since nerf comes almost every major patch.

I would suggest Ball-Lightning as well, but right now after the nerf , you might need to invest a little more to compensate for damage loss.

Just look for skills that are innately powerful, therefor you could stack loads of defense and do great damage, and if it isn't enough you can adjust accordingly.

Glass dps builds are very expensive and if you fail to deal enough damage than its kinda pointless.

That being said, frostbolt icenova occutlist is great, i had to opportunity to min-max one ( For testing purposes ), and played high end games with it.

I would say it is strong and enjoyable, but there are quite a few counters to it.

It cost abit-- Militant faith with 3% more damage per powercharge, dual void batteries ( pen corruption if you have $$ ) and stack all that power charges.

Things i would like to test -- Bl with divine flesh + incan

List of skills i would suggest for pvp on league:

Divine Flesh + INCAN + Molten with the following:

Blade Vortex/ CWDT+FLAMEDASH ( tanky )

Storm Burst ( really good damage with little investment, Zap's behind walls)

Ball-Lightning ( needless to say)

Glassy fireball ( Yolo )

Discharge ( possibly if u have alot of currency )

Frostbolt/Icenova ( high investment but crazy fun )

Classic scorching ray ( does the job )

Dual weilding power siphon

GC mines

purifying flames

Lacerate molten shell/divine flesh ( i am actually surprised how good this is with its range and dps with just a starforge)

Self cast VD ( you will be surprised how much it deals even after the nerf )







relithh
Jul 29, 2019 21:23:00 PM

Steelskin with the enchant is better than mshell in most cases btw

50k armour is a crazy investment, steelskin has basically 0 cost

lapiz
Jul 29, 2019 22:47:21 PM

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relithh wrote:
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lapiz wrote:


Expensive as shit:
Bow



Tornado Shot and Barrage still alive in pvp?


A good bower to take on these builds would easily cost you +/- 15-16 mirs.

If you are talking about league than, no, this is not league viable, you must have legacy just-about-everything to deal good damage.

I also do not think certain items exist still. You might want to consider if it is worthwhile investing that much since nerf comes almost every major patch.

I would suggest Ball-Lightning as well, but right now after the nerf , you might need to invest a little more to compensate for damage loss.

Just look for skills that are innately powerful, therefor you could stack loads of defense and do great damage, and if it isn't enough you can adjust accordingly.

Glass dps builds are very expensive and if you fail to deal enough damage than its kinda pointless.

That being said, frostbolt icenova occutlist is great, i had to opportunity to min-max one ( For testing purposes ), and played high end games with it.

I would say it is strong and enjoyable, but there are quite a few counters to it.

It cost abit-- Militant faith with 3% more damage per powercharge, dual void batteries ( pen corruption if you have $$ ) and stack all that power charges.

Things i would like to test -- Bl with divine flesh + incan

List of skills i would suggest for pvp on league:

Divine Flesh + INCAN + Molten with the following:

Blade Vortex/ CWDT+FLAMEDASH ( tanky )

Storm Burst ( really good damage with little investment, Zap's behind walls)

Ball-Lightning ( needless to say)

Glassy fireball ( Yolo )

Discharge ( possibly if u have alot of currency )

Frostbolt/Icenova ( high investment but crazy fun )

Classic scorching ray ( does the job )

Dual weilding power siphon

GC mines

purifying flames

Lacerate molten shell/divine flesh ( i am actually surprised how good this is with its range and dps with just a starforge)

Self cast VD ( you will be surprised how much it deals even after the nerf )










Hey yeah ive tested Frostbolt+Ice nova its pretty funny , dual void battery add a lot of dps, saddly my char is not so tanky because ES gear need a lot of invest



Today ive met anubiet in Legion sarn arena , he did a classic tanky scorching ray tricskter with
Arakaali's Fang
Fiend Dagger
Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 100% chance to Trigger Level 1 Raise Spiders on Kill
  • 171% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 8 to 21 Physical Damage
  • Adds 1 to 59 Chaos Damage
  • 15% chance to Poison on Hit
  • All children must eat.



    those random spiders hit really fast so im thinking in ways to counter him
    ( Maybe with another build or a guardian scorching ray char) ,

    ive found these items in league i was thinking try LA for pvp league but probably will not be enough (im using them for pve right now )

    Rage Arch
    Thicket Bow
    Click to expand
  • Adds 25 to 56 Physical Damage
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 20% chance to deal Double Damage
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 122% increased Physical Damage
  • 22% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 14% Elemental Resistances
  • +15% to Quality
  • Dendrobate
    Sentinel Jacket
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Projectile Gems
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 10 Lesser Poison
  • 138% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  • +40 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +24% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 83% increased Damage with Poison if you have at least 300 Dexterity
  • 19% increased Poison Duration if you have at least 150 Intelligence
  • Ask any tracker and they'll tell you:

    the most dangerous animals

    are the ones who don't bother to hide.




    ive some doubts in power shipon ( at least in a new league ) , im not sure if it will work good without ''legacy bcr mods'' in weapons ,
    in standard '' Steve'' use a scion with power siphon traps and hit reallly hard but he use ''legacy'' bcr wands

    EspadaDelPanico
    Jul 29, 2019 23:35:06 PM

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    Aodui
    Jul 30, 2019 01:54:51 AM

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    those random spiders hit really fast so im thinking in ways to counter him



    We seen "chance to flee" support work on those minions. Also if you have perma phasing you can just rush past them.

    Temporal chain always good BUT if he use Necro aegis + atziri shield it will not work. Best bet ATM seems to be phasing+chance to flee.

    One thing I used against thoses spiders with success was "pierce support" on projectiles . If your skill can offscreen and can kill a tank you can just use pierce and shoot at the player. If you don t 1 shot, try chance to flee I guess.

    I am not sure about using LA with pierce BTW, I remember old LA overlaps So I am not sure piercing a target would be good for LA but because I don t play LA maybe someone with better knowledge would tell you if Pierce is good on LA or not.

    lolozori
    Jul 30, 2019 14:34:20 PM

    I strongly agreed with what you said. LA is extremely strong and never got Nerf by GGG. Great & good skill to invest in if you are uber rich.

    keyboardell
    Jul 30, 2019 16:02:44 PM

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    Hey yeah ive tested Frostbolt+Ice nova its pretty funny , dual void battery add a lot of dps, saddly my char is not so tanky because ES gear need a lot of invest



    Today ive met anubiet in Legion sarn arena , he did a classic tanky scorching ray tricskter with
    Arakaali's Fang
    Fiend Dagger
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 100% chance to Trigger Level 1 Raise Spiders on Kill
  • 171% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 8 to 21 Physical Damage
  • Adds 1 to 59 Chaos Damage
  • 15% chance to Poison on Hit
  • All children must eat.



    those random spiders hit really fast so im thinking in ways to counter him
    ( Maybe with another build or a guardian scorching ray char) ,

    ive found these items in league i was thinking try LA for pvp league but probably will not be enough (im using them for pve right now )

    Rage Arch
    Thicket Bow
    Click to expand
  • Adds 25 to 56 Physical Damage
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 20% chance to deal Double Damage
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 122% increased Physical Damage
  • 22% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 14% Elemental Resistances
  • +15% to Quality
  • Dendrobate
    Sentinel Jacket
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Projectile Gems
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 10 Lesser Poison
  • 138% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  • +40 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +24% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 83% increased Damage with Poison if you have at least 300 Dexterity
  • 19% increased Poison Duration if you have at least 150 Intelligence
  • Ask any tracker and they'll tell you:

    the most dangerous animals

    are the ones who don't bother to hide.




    ive some doubts in power shipon ( at least in a new league ) , im not sure if it will work good without ''legacy bcr mods'' in weapons ,
    in standard '' Steve'' use a scion with power siphon traps and hit reallly hard but he use ''legacy'' bcr wands




    if u have <100ms flameblast can win just about anything. you can give that a try. Can ask lapiz flame-blast god

    relithh
    Jul 30, 2019 20:45:38 PM

    Hey this bow

    Empyrean Twine
    Harbinger Bow
    Click to expand
  • 50% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 42 to 70 Physical Damage
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 20% chance to deal Double Damage
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 128% increased Physical Damage
  • 23% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 15% Elemental Resistances
  • +17% to Quality
  • could be good for RoA/La in sarn arena? or just pve? any gem setup recomendation for roa? i bought many legacy abyss jewels with Lightning damage to attacks/Bow attacks in standard , i was thinking try a glasscannon just for fun in standard arena

    EspadaDelPanico
    Aug 17, 2019 18:09:34 PM

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    Hey this bow
    Empyrean Twine
    Harbinger Bow
    Click to expand
  • 50% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 42 to 70 Physical Damage
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 20% chance to deal Double Damage
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 128% increased Physical Damage
  • 23% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Attacks with this Weapon Penetrate 15% Elemental Resistances
  • +17% to Quality
  • could be good for RoA/La in sarn arena? or just pve? any gem setup recomendation for roa? i bought many legacy abyss jewels with Lightning damage to attacks/Bow attacks in standard , i was thinking try a glasscannon just for fun in standard arena


    flat damage is usually scaled through attack speed

    Tommie_Sjukskriven
    Aug 19, 2019 00:34:44 AM
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