Forum Index Templar [3.8] Ultra tanky Ball Lightning Guardian | CI 11-15k ES | 3-5m Shaper DPS

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ApoCalipsEZA wrote:
Anyone looking for a really nice Brutal Restraint, for free, pm me in game.

Someone claimed 699 if anyone wants, had all good stuff for this build


Can I have it?


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Tried Mjolner CwC variant.
It's meh. The boss damage is much lower than ball lightning. Clearspeed seems a bit slower or roughly the same. Cyclone move speed is bad. I'll leave POB in case any 1 interested. And yes, I bought 20-20 gems for test, so can't blame skill level.

https://pastebin.com/8aGjZQ4z

ShatteredEssence
Jul 25, 2019 16:55:46 PM

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ApoCalipsEZA wrote:
Anyone looking for a really nice Brutal Restraint, for free, pm me in game.

Someone claimed 699 if anyone wants, had all good stuff for this build


Can I have it?


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Tried Mjolner CwC variant.
It's meh. The boss damage is much lower than ball lightning. Clearspeed seems a bit slower or roughly the same. Cyclone move speed is bad. I'll leave POB in case any 1 interested. And yes, I bought 20-20 gems for test, so can't blame skill level.

https://pastebin.com/8aGjZQ4z


I built out a mjolner cwc last night. So far I like it but haven't tried it on a boss yet. It feels strong in high maps. I'm also moving faster with an adrenaline Quicksilver. Seems flexible with the auras. May try putting in haste tonight. Using ball lightning in mjolner.

ThorTheGray
Jul 25, 2019 20:01:40 PM

Tried many different variants last night, and I've come to the conclusion that grizzly's ball lightning variant is the best of them. Frustrated by the lack of clear speed in maps, I took out added lightning damage and put in greater multiple projectiles. While this did decrease dps by 20k, it has a phenomenal impact on mapping and you can still kill bosses just fine without gem swapping. Is this build good for farming currency? Hell no. Is this build good for staying alive and leveling to 100 without getting too frustrated? Hell yes. Is it a build for everyone? Nope. Can it clear all content? Easily, but slowly. Is this build recommended? If you hate dying like I do, then yes, but just remember that maps are going to take three times as long to clear compared to other, much faster, builds.

I unfairly gave this build a D- rating a couple of days ago, and I've decided to upgrade it to a C-. It is tanky, but it's slow and there isn't anything one can do to change that, it appears. If anyone can be creative enough to come up with a speed variant of this build, I would be very much interested.

Kadamose
Jul 26, 2019 02:19:14 AM

@ThorTheGray
How do you pla without ghost reaver?

ShatteredEssence
Jul 26, 2019 08:34:28 AM

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@ThorTheGray
How do you pla without ghost reaver?


This is kind of a lame answer but I'm not entirely sure. I think this build relies on Time of Need and so far it feels just as tanky. Alternatively, I've decided to respec a few points and try out Light Eater for an extra layer of THICCness.


Edit: Took out guardians last night and they were easy. They don't go down as fast as pure ball lightning but I feel tankier. Could just be the higher es I have now which is at 12.3k. I am going to try tier 16 elder guardians now.

Edit 2: Enslaver = Easy
Edit 3: Constrictor = Easy
Edit 4: Eradictor = Easy (can't facetank his super lightning tendrils)
Edit 5: Purifier = Easy (Facetank all day)
Edit 6: Uber Elder = To my surprise, deathless

ThorTheGray
Jul 26, 2019 16:26:43 PM

Hi, is this build HH compatible?

SilencedSnow
Jul 26, 2019 21:25:37 PM

@ThorTheGray
Elder guards are nothing compared to an evel phoenix. I would not take that to a count.


HH i'd say yes =) would live to try this build out with hh. U tell me how it feels.

ShatteredEssence
Jul 26, 2019 22:16:36 PM

and yah. I did UE with 2persons on a grid. My wife just does not know when to stop. But she knows well ti stay down, if she's downed by the boss. So on my 1st try I ended up using 5 portals, doing UE for two, this time I ended up on a floor just once. And it was just me holding a sig. I love this build )

ShatteredEssence
Jul 26, 2019 22:19:49 PM

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SilencedSnow wrote:
Hi, is this build HH compatible?

Yes

grizzly40
Jul 27, 2019 00:54:26 AM

I went with this build as one of about 5 I do every league.

Now, let me begin by saying that the "feel" of self-cast BL just didn't feel right. Griz, your build is great, but I didn't like it. Something about the combo of Echo and Slower Proj just didn't sit well with me.

SO

Looking at your tree, you really only take 5 pts of specific Lightning damage, so I went in search of a better "feeling" spell that still did good damage.

I tried Fireball, damage hit was too big. I tried Storm Burst - still didn't like it without more investment in physical damage and conversion abuse.

I landed on Incinerate. You had a large investment in AOE already, so Incinerate just feels great. You get to use Infused Channeling instead of Echo and I personally found the feel of Incinerate to be fantastic.

Feel free to check out my profile. POB puts me at 2M damage fully buffed, and about 1.2M with no flasks or temp buffs. Damage feels great, was able to do Guardians, Shaper and UE without an issue. The tankiness that the build was designed around is still there and feels great.

Just my 2c. Keep up the awesome builds.

POB currently: https://pastebin.com/KGf223w0

Only big investments were the Watcher's Eye and the 6L Shavs. Everything else purchased for 10-20C or under.

Gromrok
Jul 27, 2019 05:17:02 AM
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