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vemman wrote:
The part i dont understand then is why this would be worth it? Like said before, you dont gain any DPS (1/2 dmg but 2x number of balls) so why take that extra step where you have to manage your balls for less/no lag?

I feel like the original setup is just better because its the same dps but no lag-management required.

If you have to manange the number of balls you wont be able to use the full capabilities of the build and then you wont even have the same dps, you'll have less.

Maybe i've missed something im not sure.

You misunderstood. The dmg per cast is the same, but the overall dps is much higher due to higher aps. With unearth setup it's very hard to reach 12-13 aps. With desecrate you can easily reach 17-18 aps and use cdr gear. If you dont use cdr gear and can reach 12+ aps with unearth setup, then unearth is better. But then again, with that gear you could just get some cdr, swap to desecrate and get 17+ aps.

1337fun
Sep 17, 2019 14:32:26 PM

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1337fun wrote:
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vemman wrote:
The part i dont understand then is why this would be worth it? Like said before, you dont gain any DPS (1/2 dmg but 2x number of balls) so why take that extra step where you have to manage your balls for less/no lag?

I feel like the original setup is just better because its the same dps but no lag-management required.

If you have to manange the number of balls you wont be able to use the full capabilities of the build and then you wont even have the same dps, you'll have less.

Maybe i've missed something im not sure.

You misunderstood. The dmg per cast is the same, but the overall dps is much higher due to higher aps. With unearth setup it's very hard to reach 12-13 aps. With desecrate you can easily reach 17-18 aps and use cdr gear. If you dont use cdr gear and can reach 12+ aps with unearth setup, then unearth is better. But then again, with that gear you could just get some cdr, swap to desecrate and get 17+ aps.


ah, alright. thanks for clearing that up.

vemman
Sep 17, 2019 14:43:05 PM

Where does these necro builds on these pob get dexterity from? by far i can see they dont have any dex on tree, you supposed to get all dex from items?

ooyaphetsoo
Sep 17, 2019 17:11:55 PM

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ooyaphetsoo wrote:
Where does these necro builds on these pob get dexterity from? by far i can see they dont have any dex on tree, you supposed to get all dex from items?

Mostly yes. It is only 111 u need, is ok to get from gear.

1337fun
Sep 17, 2019 18:30:01 PM

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ooyaphetsoo wrote:
Where does these necro builds on these pob get dexterity from? by far i can see they dont have any dex on tree, you supposed to get all dex from items?


It's pretty easy to get dex from gear.

+12 on each jewel, +40 on helmet/gloves, Annointing ammys can get you 20 dex.

S0T0
Sep 17, 2019 18:30:40 PM

So i made some changes in eq and tree :)

Circle of Anguish
Synthesised Ruby Ring
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  • -1 to Total Mana Cost of Skills
  • -68 Fire Damage taken from Hits
  • +22 to Strength
  • Adds 21 to 30 Fire Damage
  • +28% to Fire Resistance
  • Herald of Ash has 38% reduced Mana Reservation
  • Herald of Ash has 87% increased Buff Effect
  • I condemned an innocent man to the pyres, but to admit this mistake is to condemn myself.

    My only choice is to strive harder.

    Corpse Knuckle
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +16% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • +34 to Intelligence
  • Adds 22 to 48 Fire Damage to Spells and Attacks
  • +63 to maximum Life
  • Non-Channelling Skills have -8 to Total Mana Cost


  • Thanks to it you dont need Empower for reducing mana reserved and you can easily sustain frenzy.

    and you can add like: flame golem or sth

    Still have much things to 2 but this build is great :)

    bkj1
    Sep 18, 2019 18:50:36 PM

    Hello,

    I cannot use POB so I rely on using the skill tree from here, is there any way you could do that?

    Bow zon0
    Sep 19, 2019 06:52:54 AM

    How you get so many attack speed? i have only 5 with buffs.

    ImpossibleIsNothing
    Sep 19, 2019 20:09:25 PM

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    Bow zon0 wrote:
    Hello,

    I cannot use POB so I rely on using the skill tree from here, is there any way you could do that?

    I added all 3 necro trees.

    1337fun
    Sep 19, 2019 20:44:04 PM

    Is't it better to run desecrate instead unearth?

    bkj1
    Sep 21, 2019 08:59:49 AM
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