Forum Index Duelist [3.8] SUNDERMAN BUILD (Fast ClearSpeed + Labber + Super EZ + Endgame) (Gladiator)

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_MaTi_ wrote:
Nice build. Very fun to play. Nice Clear speed.
But I have problem with guardians and shaper.

Thanks a lot! It's almost the same gear as the one I'm using in league right now(also pretty close to required gear), with little differences. What kind of problems are you having? Is it slow to do guardians and shaper, or do you die a lot? Are the resists capped? One thing I noticed, you need bubbling mod on divine flask. Helps some on survivability bc of insta-recovery.

PegasusRideR
Sep 15, 2019 00:29:20 AM

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PegasusRideR wrote:
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_MaTi_ wrote:
Nice build. Very fun to play. Nice Clear speed.
But I have problem with guardians and shaper.

Thanks a lot! It's almost the same gear as the one I'm using in league right now(also pretty close to required gear), with little differences. What kind of problems are you having? Is it slow to do guardians and shaper, or do you die a lot? Are the resists capped? One thing I noticed, you need bubbling mod on divine flask. Helps some on survivability bc of insta-recovery.


Yea im dying on the "mechanical" bosses like chimera or shaper or even red elder. But im gonna change rings + will get that mod on the flask+ will change the molten shell for immortal call. More life and i think will be fine. Anyway I have alt char for single target and im just switching for stronger bosses so there is no big deal.
Also I'm thinking at the moment about that 15% mana that is left for nothing. What to use and how to do it? And is it even worth it?

Once a again nice build :)

_MaTi_
Sep 15, 2019 01:51:46 AM

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_MaTi_ wrote:
Yea im dying on the "mechanical" bosses like chimera or shaper or even red elder. But im gonna change rings + will get that mod on the flask+ will change the molten shell for immortal call. More life and i think will be fine. Anyway I have alt char for single target and im just switching for stronger bosses so there is no big deal.

Just did some test runs. On shaper guardians, 6k life and 450k(pob) dps should be enough for deathless killing. When dps is lower than 400k, it takes too long especially for red elder and shaper, and more chances to die bc fight is taking long. All become much easier when you reach 600+k dps tho(required gear's dps). I just noticed, you might want to get a Basalt Flask instead of Sulphur for Red Elder and Shaper.

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_MaTi_ wrote:
Also I'm thinking at the moment about that 15% mana that is left for nothing. What to use and how to do it? And is it even worth it?

I haven't thought about this tbh after changing Herald of Ash with Blood and Sand, which made the %15 free. There is War Banner and Dread Banner for %10 mana reserve. Dread Banner gives %20 chance to impale so it's pretty good. Just updated the build guide. Thanks for the idea!

PegasusRideR
Sep 16, 2019 05:26:48 AM

I just upgraded my items a little.

Carrion Etcher
Karui Axe
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  • +39 to Strength
  • 195% increased Physical Damage
  • 23% increased Attack Speed
  • Gain 9% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage
  • +67 to Accuracy Rating
  • Adds 17 to 28 Physical Damage
  • Starkonja's Head
    Silken Hood
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  • +56 to Dexterity
  • 50% reduced Damage when on Low Life
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 25% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 110% increased Evasion Rating
  • +91 to maximum Life
  • 150% increased Global Evasion Rating when on Low Life
  • There was no hero made out of Starkonja's death,

    but merely a long sleep made eternal.

    Soul Taker
    Siege Axe
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  • 137% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 10 to 20 Physical Damage
  • 20% increased Attack Speed
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • Insufficient Mana doesn't prevent your Melee Attacks
  • Your Physical Damage can Chill
  • It is too easy for the soul to escape from an open heart.

    Belly of the Beast
    Full Wyrmscale
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  • 160% increased Armour
  • 38% increased maximum Life
  • +12% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • Extra gore
  • There is no safer place

    Than the Belly of the Beast

    Morbid Hold
    Steel Ring
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  • Adds 4 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +22 to Intelligence
  • Adds 4 to 6 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +65 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 5% increased Attack Speed
  • Pain Gorget
    Turquoise Amulet
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  • +24 to Dexterity and Intelligence
  • +47 to Intelligence
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +23% to Cold Resistance
  • 1.1% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • Adds 6 to 10 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • Tempest Grasp
    Steel Ring
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  • Adds 4 to 12 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +20 to Intelligence
  • Adds 7 to 13 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +71 to maximum Life
  • +45 to maximum Mana
  • 11% increased Global Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Chaos Damage
  • Foe Vise
    Spiked Gloves
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  • 20% increased Melee Damage
  • Adds 1 to 5 Lightning Damage to Attacks
  • 9% increased Attack Speed
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +10% to Lightning Resistance
  • Adds 4 to 8 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • Gloom Bind
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +73 to maximum Life
  • +65 to maximum Mana
  • +33% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • 35% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • 15% increased Damage
  • Wrath Slippers
    Ancient Greaves
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  • +32% to Fire Resistance
  • +27% to Cold Resistance
  • +32% to Lightning Resistance
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • +68 to maximum Life
  • Blood of the Karui
    Sanctified Life Flask
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  • 100% increased Life Recovered
  • 6% increased Recovery rate
  • Recover Full Life at the end of the Flask Effect
  • "Kaom fought and killed for his people.

    Kaom bled for his people.

    And so the people gave, the people bled,

    So their King might go on."

    - Lavianga, Advisor to Kaom

    Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Heat
    -
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  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • Taste of Hate
    Sapphire Flask
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  • 20% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Flask effect
  • Gain 19% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Flask effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during Flask effect
  • A sip will freeze your lips,

    A swig will chill your heart,

    A glass will still your soul.

    Experimenter's Sulphur Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • Creates Consecrated Ground on Use
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • 30% increased Duration
  • Lion's Roar
    Granite Flask
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  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • Knocks Back Enemies in an Area when you use a Flask
  • 75% chance to cause Enemies to Flee on use
  • 24% more Melee Physical Damage during effect
  • A sprinkle of hunger, a spoonful of menace

    and three generous cups of Might.




    Total dps in pob is 739 239.2.
    I have 7 132 life.
    Next step is to buy devoto with sunder damage enchant

    I have a question.
    Is it good idea to get enlighten lvl 4 move aura gems to the helm link it to enlighten lvl 4. So i will reserv only 74% mana. Remove increase duration and move blood rage + Enchance + Blood magic to the soul taker siege axe.
    Then remove increase duration form CWDT support unlink it and put there Herald of ash ? Pob shows that dps will increase to 800k. What do u think ?
    @edit:
    nah now i think thats is bad idea

    _MaTi_
    Sep 17, 2019 18:36:51 PM

    How do I gain life?

    Julemanden
    Sep 18, 2019 18:44:19 PM

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    Julemanden wrote:
    How do I gain life?

    Life leech on amulet and/or blood rage.

    @_MaTi_: Looks pretty good. I think Herald of Ash change is too much sacrifice for the dps. I want to keep the build forgiving as possible. Like life leech on amulet is not even needed when Blood Rage is on, but it's still there as a lifesaver, thinking that people can forget to activate blood rage or forget to keep track of it to see if its on or not(or give breaks when playing and forget to activate it again, etc.)

    PegasusRideR
    Sep 18, 2019 21:09:01 PM

    Yea its not worth. INC duration is needed for CWDT setup.

    My pob total dps jumped to the 1113k after i got this

    Armageddon Claw
    Spiked Gloves
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  • 20% increased Melee Damage
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Faster Attacks
  • Adds 4 to 7 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • Regenerate 1.3 Life per second
  • 10% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Hit an Enemy Recently
  • +66 to maximum Life


  • i manage also to change notable and got Aspect of the Panther.
    Pain Gorget
    Turquoise Amulet
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  • +24 to Dexterity and Intelligence
  • +47 to Intelligence
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +23% to Cold Resistance
  • 1.1% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • Adds 6 to 10 Physical Damage to Attacks


  • But i sacrifice about 200 life. And atm i have 6672 in total.

    Next step buy some good weapon with ruthles or other good skill.
    The problem is that nothing is good atm on the trade.
    Only some trashes with 120% phys dmg. I guess we need to w8 a bit.

    _MaTi_
    Sep 19, 2019 07:40:31 AM

    "
    _MaTi_ wrote:
    Yea its not worth. INC duration is needed for CWDT setup.

    My pob total dps jumped to the 1113k after i got this
    Armageddon Claw
    Spiked Gloves
    Click to expand
  • 20% increased Melee Damage
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Faster Attacks
  • Adds 4 to 7 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • Regenerate 1.3 Life per second
  • 10% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Hit an Enemy Recently
  • +66 to maximum Life


  • i manage also to change notable and got Aspect of the Panther.
    Pain Gorget
    Turquoise Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +24 to Dexterity and Intelligence
  • +47 to Intelligence
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +23% to Cold Resistance
  • 1.1% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • Adds 6 to 10 Physical Damage to Attacks


  • But i sacrifice about 200 life. And atm i have 6672 in total.

    Next step buy some good weapon with ruthles or other good skill.
    The problem is that nothing is good atm on the trade.
    Only some trashes with 120% phys dmg. I guess we need to w8 a bit.


    1113k is pretty nice, well over the meta gear dps. Endgame bosses should be melting down pretty fast now. I'm having same problem when buying items too, especially waited days for the weapon I'm using now. Wasn't an issue last league since majority was melee. Btw I started using Panther as well. Lost a little dps, but other bonuses are worth it imo. Added it to post, thx.

    PegasusRideR
    Sep 22, 2019 22:29:22 PM

    1 472 269 total dps in pob :D

    Carrion Etcher
    Karui Axe
    Click to expand
  • +39 to Strength
  • 195% increased Physical Damage
  • 23% increased Attack Speed
  • Gain 9% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage
  • +67 to Accuracy Rating
  • Adds 17 to 28 Physical Damage
  • Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +60 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 166% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +15% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.

    Soul Taker
    Siege Axe
    Click to expand
  • 137% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 10 to 20 Physical Damage
  • 20% increased Attack Speed
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • Insufficient Mana doesn't prevent your Melee Attacks
  • Your Physical Damage can Chill
  • It is too easy for the soul to escape from an open heart.

    Morbid Hold
    Steel Ring
    Click to expand
  • Adds 4 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +22 to Intelligence
  • Adds 4 to 6 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +65 to maximum Life
  • 40% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 16% increased Damage
  • Tempest Grasp
    Steel Ring
    Click to expand
  • Adds 3 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +19 to Intelligence
  • Adds 9 to 15 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +77 to maximum Life
  • +49 to maximum Mana
  • +6% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 5% increased Attack Speed
  • Vengeance Collar
    Citrine Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +19 to Strength and Dexterity
  • +40 to Strength
  • +24 to Intelligence
  • Adds 12 to 23 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +82 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Cold Resistance
  • 9% increased Area of Effect
  • 13% increased Area Damage
  • Belly of the Beast
    Full Wyrmscale
    Click to expand
  • +1 to Level of Socketed Gems
  • 4% increased maximum Life
  • 190% increased Armour
  • 36% increased maximum Life
  • +13% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • Extra gore
  • There is no safer place

    Than the Belly of the Beast

    Armageddon Claw
    Spiked Gloves
    Click to expand
  • 20% increased Melee Damage
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Faster Attacks
  • Adds 4 to 7 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • +14 to Armour
  • Regenerate 1.3 Life per second
  • 10% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Hit an Enemy Recently
  • +69 to maximum Life
  • Pain Bond
    Stygian Vise
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +19 to Strength
  • +98 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Fire Resistance
  • +40% to Lightning Resistance
  • 14% increased Damage
  • Doom Dash
    Two-Toned Boots
    Click to expand
  • +12% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • +31 to Intelligence
  • +85 to maximum Life
  • +28% to Fire Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +20% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • Blood of the Karui
    Sanctified Life Flask
    Click to expand
  • 100% increased Life Recovered
  • 6% increased Recovery rate
  • Recover Full Life at the end of the Flask Effect
  • "Kaom fought and killed for his people.

    Kaom bled for his people.

    And so the people gave, the people bled,

    So their King might go on."

    - Lavianga, Advisor to Kaom

    Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Heat
    -
    Click to expand
  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • Taste of Hate
    Sapphire Flask
    Click to expand
  • 20% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Flask effect
  • Gain 19% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Flask effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during Flask effect
  • A sip will freeze your lips,

    A swig will chill your heart,

    A glass will still your soul.

    Experimenter's Sulphur Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • Creates Consecrated Ground on Use
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • 30% increased Duration
  • Lion's Roar
    Granite Flask
    Click to expand
  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • Knocks Back Enemies in an Area when you use a Flask
  • 75% chance to cause Enemies to Flee on use
  • 24% more Melee Physical Damage during effect
  • A sprinkle of hunger, a spoonful of menace

    and three generous cups of Might.



    Next steps:
    - buy good jewel.
    - Lvl up to 98 and buy the last jewel.
    - buy the rest skills with 21/23
    - Look for good corrupted soul taker
    - buy some devotos with sunder and corrupt it.
    - buy some nice amulets and corrupt it
    - buy some nice 250% phys /+chaos dmg conv weapon
    - get lvl 100

    the party just started ;D

    _MaTi_
    Sep 24, 2019 02:37:44 AM

    "
    _MaTi_ wrote:
    1 472 269 total dps in pob :D

    Next steps:
    - buy good jewel.
    - Lvl up to 98 and buy the last jewel.
    - buy the rest skills with 21/23
    - Look for good corrupted soul taker
    - buy some devotos with sunder and corrupt it.
    - buy some nice amulets and corrupt it
    - buy some nice 250% phys /+chaos dmg conv weapon
    - get lvl 100

    the party just started ;D


    Going pretty good so far! I'm thinking to corrupt some devotos too. "+2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems" would be pretty nice since all auras are in helm now. Or %life would do nice too if not on your setup. Btw don't corrupt amulets, make them talismans:)

    PegasusRideR
    Sep 26, 2019 21:24:40 PM
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