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do you think this build is the best way to play as support and in same time to be able to play solo ?


also wondering with :


https://respoe.xyz/forum/view-thread/2213233/page/1


and other kind of summoners boosting their minions with lot of aura


Could you say me best way to play this kind of gameplay ?

I need to be effective support, ( who boost survivability mainly and dps secondly)
realy great tank,
able to play solo


i have 170 exalted to focus in one build for the needs i asked.

Do you know wich one is the best to do this plz ?

Thanks and have a nice day

Azure41.

Azure41
Mar 17, 2019 18:27:52 PM

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Azure41 wrote:
do you think this build is the best way to play as support and in same time to be able to play solo ?


also wondering with :


https://respoe.xyz/forum/view-thread/2213233/page/1


and other kind of summoners boosting their minions with lot of aura


Could you say me best way to play this kind of gameplay ?

I need to be effective support, ( who boost survivability mainly and dps secondly)
realy great tank,
able to play solo


i have 170 exalted to focus in one build for the needs i asked.

Do you know wich one is the best to do this plz ?

Thanks and have a nice day

Azure41.


thats exactly the case.. the build is awesome to support friends

and also awesome to do any content of the game

Bax_CD
Mar 18, 2019 01:58:41 AM

Bax, i would say that its hard to play as life based from maps till low life gear...its 6k hp but you cannot use any defensive auras :(

xxxenforcerxxx
Mar 18, 2019 08:04:56 AM

Hi, thanks for the answer, then i will go to your build, i hope i'll love it ;)

just some links that you could add in your guide for endgame items, it will help lot of peoples i think :

It's in standard, juste change league if needed :

Spoiler

Shield : http://poe.trade/search/risakositinaga

Ring : http://poe.trade/search/ahahakakomakio (what is better 4 % ES or 3 % + 100 mana ? )

Chest : http://poe.trade/search/hetahohakanoso

Boots : http://poe.trade/search/mitamesuborite

Weapon : http://poe.trade/search/niyamodomomayo (wich corrupt is best for this build?)

Gloves : http://poe.trade/search/okidohareyosis ( depending on budget you can add + 1 level socketed gem)

Helm : http://poe.trade/search/erukamkoragite ( stats rarely together so i put offline players also,
maybe you have one for sell atm ? )

Belt : http://poe.trade/search/hohisitonoyora

second ring : http://poe.trade/search/amekotonitahar ( add stats you lack )

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Gems level 21, 20 % depending on your budget change the level or / and the %

Spoiler

Herald of agony : http://poe.trade/search/oritemeyokukon

Damage on full life support : http://poe.trade/search/akahininidumas

Empower support : http://poe.trade/search/okatikorenanon

Minion damage support : http://poe.trade/search/ohasisimareruw

Pierce support : http://poe.trade/search/onoausihayahet

Vile toxins support : http://poe.trade/search/otinatadomamak

Grace : http://poe.trade/search/rarutahawiiwak

Determination : http://poe.trade/search/otiwomiwoonara

Haste : http://poe.trade/search/iyotekararimet

Hatred : http://poe.trade/search/omauretaomituw

Generosity support : http://poe.trade/search/itamamgiorukon

Vitality : http://poe.trade/search/erurikimitomat

Ball lightning : http://poe.trade/search/ukakoaadumtabi

Lesser Poison support : http://poe.trade/search/asarihiyausama

Poison support : http://poe.trade/search/namohenonimohu

Vigilant strike : http://poe.trade/search/hamanahahenitu

Purity of Ice : http://poe.trade/search/inahugosenikeb

Purity of Lightning : http://poe.trade/search/akohetiugerida

Purity of Fire : http://poe.trade/search/tohimitokanino

Enlighten support : http://poe.trade/search/raritesukigami

Discipline : http://poe.trade/search/ukikinegosiwah

Convocation : http://poe.trade/search/woohorimaretot

Cast when damage taken level 1/20% : http://poe.trade/search/nomenonakoazuw

Desecrate lvl 7 / 20% : http://poe.trade/search/onoreruhoruomi

Spirit offering level 8 / 20 % : http://poe.trade/search/asiyokimokarow

Azure41
Mar 18, 2019 09:26:54 AM

What is the purpose of playing on standard?))

xxxenforcerxxx
Mar 18, 2019 13:34:42 PM

if you are like me and like reroll often, it's easyer to play in standard than in league ;)


Edit : how we manage the life used when casting the lightning balls ? since we can't regen life, does we need to spam life pots ? is it the life gained on spell from your ring ?

Azure41
Mar 18, 2019 13:41:14 PM

Ephemeral Edge
Dusk Blade
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  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • +10 to Intelligence
  • 150% increased Physical Damage
  • 50% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 46% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 10% reduced maximum Life
  • 0.71% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana
  • In the rift between future and past,

    life passes quickly.

    Wrath Veil
    Lion Pelt
    Click to expand
  • +3 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Minion Damage
  • 24% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +37% to Fire Resistance
  • Minions deal 20% increased Damage
  • 4% reduced Mana Reserved
  • +70 to maximum Life
  • Shavronne's Wrappings
    Occultist's Vestment
    Click to expand
  • 10% increased Spell Damage
  • 200% increased Energy Shield
  • 10% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • +38% to Lightning Resistance
  • Reflects 1 to 250 Lightning Damage to Melee Attackers
  • Chaos Damage does not bypass Energy Shield
  • Shavronne's apparel became ever more extravagant

    as her body and soul became ever more corrupted.

    Prism Guardian
    Archon Kite Shield
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • Socketed Gems have Blood Magic
  • Socketed Gems have 25% reduced Mana Reservation
  • +21 to Dexterity
  • +25% to all Elemental Resistances
  • When blood is paid, the weak think twice.

    Sin Trek
    Stealth Boots
    Click to expand
  • +30 to Dexterity
  • +29 to Intelligence
  • 92% increased Evasion Rating
  • +151 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • Enemies Cannot Leech Life From you
  • Do not let them step on your feet. Keep them at bay.

    Shaper's Touch
    Crusader Gloves
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed AoE Gems
  • Curse Enemies with Level 10 Despair on Hit
  • 116% increased Armour and Energy Shield
  • +4 Accuracy Rating per 2 Intelligence
  • +1 Life per 4 Dexterity
  • +2 Mana per 4 Strength
  • 2% increased Energy Shield per 10 Strength
  • 2% increased Evasion Rating per 10 Intelligence
  • 2% increased Melee Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity
  • By my hand, the inert is given life.

    By my hand, that which rots is reborn.

    There is nothing that cannot be changed.

    Nothing.

    Bramble Bond
    Crystal Belt
    Click to expand
  • +80 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +15 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 8% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 20% increased Energy Shield Recovery rate
  • 16% increased Energy Shield from Body Armour
  • 28% increased Spell Damage during any Flask Effect
  • 17% increased Damage
  • Demon Turn
    Unset Ring
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Socket
  • +17 to Strength
  • +44 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +14% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +14% to Chaos Resistance
  • +13 Life gained for each Enemy hit by your Spells
  • 17% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • The Pariah
    Unset Ring
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Socket
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Gems
  • 10% increased Attack and Cast Speed
  • +100 to Maximum Life per Red Socket
  • +100 to Maximum Mana per Green Socket
  • +100 to Maximum Energy Shield per Blue Socket
  • 15% increased Item Quantity per White Socket
  • A man who changes his loyalties often,

    soon finds he has none.

    Presence of Chayula
    Onyx Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +16 to all Attributes
  • 30% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +60% to Chaos Resistance
  • Cannot be Stunned
  • 20% of Maximum Life Converted to Energy Shield
  • The dreamer stirs, the world trembles.




    This is the gear i found today in trade, does i have to change anything ?

    ( gems in helm arn't at the right lvl, currently changing it )

    Also i can't run all the aura :s lack : haste i think i need more - 1 % mana reserved jewel to run this last one. Wich aura are you using in same time coz even with a -5% reserved mana amu I cant run my last aura

    => you need 9 % reduced reserved mana with all the other gems at max level in more than the tree nodes ofc. Now i have all my auras.

    i switch portal gem and chaos golem gem when i need to back town and no TP

    With my despair curse it's increase him damage and boost our survivability, wich is my main aim

    I think i'll kick both of them and use an animate guardian for huge boost from items in damage / survivability and all of our boost will be give to the animated guardian also. like this set up from an other build :

    Setup:
    Helm: Leer Cast
    Staff: Dying Breath - > kingmaker + convocation = culling strike + fortify + mf ( + % crit mult if used on crawler )
    Boots: Victarios Flight
    Chest: Ambu's Charge
    Gloves: Southbound





    Also i switched Grace by Vaal grace in order to have a panic press skill


    It's a fun build but it has a lack of mobility and to much single target so i use two flask for this build atm :

    Chemist's Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline
    -
    Click to expand
  • 23% reduced Charges used
  • 24% increased Movement Speed during Flask effect
  • Dying Sun
    Ruby Flask
    Click to expand
  • 10% reduced Charges used
  • Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles during Flask Effect
  • 25% increased Area of Effect during Flask Effect
  • All things must die.

    Whether you burn out or explode is up to you.



    i use dying sun to put my curse from shaper's touch and psn to maximum ennemy


    Also I think you could give the 3.5 build topic since it has some nice tip for this build : https://respoe.xyz/forum/view-thread/2255630/page/1



    Also what do you think, instead of lightning balls use in boots this set up :

    Cast when damage taken level 1, firestorm lvl 8 , poison support 4, and lesser poison support lvl 7 ? ( levels and quality just increase damage and not the % luck to put poison)

    Like that elemental equilibrium still works, it's hit realy often time, so lot of poison, as it's on CWDT it's cost nothing in mana, so no rings mandatory, and also it give us the ability to run in maps without stoping and cast convocation when needed, better aggain if using a phasing watcher eye's ( for the life cost, does the life on spell hits works in this set up ? )

    Also it may cast the curse from my gloves by this way ? and if all of this works i can kick undying sun, since i don't need more projectile to cast the curse and poison to maximum ennemy

    Edit : i tryed, it works, but clear speed is faster with the lightning orb coz it can be cast more often, but it's great for lazy peoples, just use convocation and rush :p

    Azure41
    Mar 18, 2019 21:38:42 PM

    it's realy a great build, the first one that i don't feel squishy or useless to my party.


    i'm happy to followed this guide, i'll just try to upgrade it a bit more, i love min/max, if you have a tip for wich corrupt in sword it can be great ;) ( dunno if the accuracy give anything to the HoA.


    Thanks a lot, i tryed like 20-30 builds before yours, and i can now say i found my build.

    Azure41.

    Edit : This is my final set up :

    Ephemeral Edge
    Dusk Blade
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • +10 to Intelligence
  • 100% increased Physical Damage
  • 50% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 50% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 10% reduced maximum Life
  • 0.61% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana
  • In the rift between future and past,

    life passes quickly.

    Wrath Veil
    Lion Pelt
    Click to expand
  • +3 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Minion Damage
  • 24% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +37% to Fire Resistance
  • Minions deal 20% increased Damage
  • 4% reduced Mana Reserved
  • +70 to maximum Life
  • Prism Guardian
    Archon Kite Shield
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • Socketed Gems have Blood Magic
  • Socketed Gems have 25% reduced Mana Reservation
  • +21 to Dexterity
  • +25% to all Elemental Resistances
  • When blood is paid, the weak think twice.

    Shavronne's Wrappings
    Occultist's Vestment
    Click to expand
  • 10% increased Spell Damage
  • 200% increased Energy Shield
  • 10% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • +38% to Lightning Resistance
  • Reflects 1 to 250 Lightning Damage to Melee Attackers
  • Chaos Damage does not bypass Energy Shield
  • Shavronne's apparel became ever more extravagant

    as her body and soul became ever more corrupted.

    Shaper's Touch
    Crusader Gloves
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed AoE Gems
  • Curse Enemies with Level 10 Despair on Hit
  • 116% increased Armour and Energy Shield
  • +4 Accuracy Rating per 2 Intelligence
  • +1 Life per 4 Dexterity
  • +2 Mana per 4 Strength
  • 2% increased Energy Shield per 10 Strength
  • 2% increased Evasion Rating per 10 Intelligence
  • 2% increased Melee Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity
  • By my hand, the inert is given life.

    By my hand, that which rots is reborn.

    There is nothing that cannot be changed.

    Nothing.

    Sin Trek
    Stealth Boots
    Click to expand
  • +30 to Dexterity
  • +29 to Intelligence
  • 92% increased Evasion Rating
  • +151 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • Enemies Cannot Leech Life From you
  • Do not let them step on your feet. Keep them at bay.

    Bramble Bond
    Crystal Belt
    Click to expand
  • +80 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +15 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 8% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 20% increased Energy Shield Recovery rate
  • 16% increased Energy Shield from Body Armour
  • 28% increased Spell Damage during any Flask Effect
  • 17% increased Damage
  • Presence of Chayula
    Onyx Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 30% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +60% to Chaos Resistance
  • Cannot be Stunned
  • 20% of Maximum Life Converted to Energy Shield
  • The dreamer stirs, the world trembles.

    Phoenix Whorl
    Unset Ring
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Socket
  • +3 to Level of Socketed Gems
  • +31 to Intelligence
  • 5% increased Cast Speed
  • +45 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 34% increased Projectile Attack Damage
  • 21% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • Demon Turn
    Unset Ring
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Socket
  • +17 to Strength
  • +44 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +14% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +14% to Chaos Resistance
  • +13 Life gained for each Enemy hit by your Spells
  • 17% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • Azure41
    Mar 19, 2019 12:56:39 PM

    Bax, are u there?)

    Just wondering why so few scions playing HoA? A lot of glads and juggs, also a lot of guardians but almost no scions https://poe.ninja/challengehc/builds?class=Ascendant,Guardian&skill=Herald-of-Agony

    xxxenforcerxxx
    Mar 20, 2019 17:23:46 PM

    "
    Bax, are u there?)

    Just wondering why so few scions playing HoA? A lot of glads and juggs, also a lot of guardians but almost no scions https://poe.ninja/challengehc/builds?class=Ascendant,Guardian&skill=Herald-of-Agony



    As i see in the items used in guardian, they are more focusing in their own power / survivability then scion for upgrade the team stats also.

    But i may be false ;) Also still playing as scion and it's realy funny and tanky, it's a 100 % support char that can also handle the content solo without being lower than other pure dps spe.

    Also it don't need spectre, and for that, i love it :p


    Edit : look at this one for exemple, look at gems used. They are powerfull and tanky, but they give nearly nothing to the team :

    https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Exso/characters?characterName=CraftM

    I think it's better for solo, but lower for team fight

    waiting for Bax_CD analysis.

    Azure41.

    Azure41
    Mar 20, 2019 18:03:13 PM
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