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I bought the Pandemonius thinking that it is BIS, but to my surprise tooltip and also POB shows that my existing amulet was better. Please help me to compare the two.
Should I still go with the Pandemonius even though it does not give more dps?

The Pandemonius
Jade Amulet
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  • +29 to Dexterity
  • 26% increased Cold Damage
  • +35% to Cold Resistance
  • Chill Enemy for 1 second when Hit, reducing their Action Speed by 30%
  • Blind Chilled Enemies on Hit
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Cold Resistance against Chilled Enemies
  • A single moment sets in motion an eternal fall,

    beneath which all are buried.

    Vortex Braid
    Jade Amulet
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  • +30 to Dexterity
  • 25% increased Cold Damage
  • 36% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • +27% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • +33 to maximum Mana
  • +53 to maximum Life
  • SauMaris
    Jun 22, 2019 21:48:35 PM

    "
    SauMaris wrote:
    I bought the Pandemonius thinking that it is BIS, but to my surprise tooltip and also POB shows that my existing amulet was better. Please help me to compare the two.
    Should I still go with the Pandemonius even though it does not give more dps?

    The Pandemonius
    Jade Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +29 to Dexterity
  • 26% increased Cold Damage
  • +35% to Cold Resistance
  • Chill Enemy for 1 second when Hit, reducing their Action Speed by 30%
  • Blind Chilled Enemies on Hit
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Cold Resistance against Chilled Enemies
  • A single moment sets in motion an eternal fall,

    beneath which all are buried.

    Vortex Braid
    Jade Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +30 to Dexterity
  • 25% increased Cold Damage
  • 36% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • +27% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • +33 to maximum Mana
  • +53 to maximum Life


  • keep pandemonious a blinded enemy is a hitless enemy this is y it's BEST in slot dont listen to POB lol

    dragnmith1
    Jun 22, 2019 22:09:26 PM

    "
    dragnmith1 wrote:

    keep pandemonious a blinded enemy is a hitless enemy this is y it's BEST in slot dont listen to POB lol


    Thank you

    SauMaris
    Jun 22, 2019 23:33:39 PM

    Hi,

    Just levelled my new char, currently using a similar build to this out of a other topic. Wondering if this is a better build, have to respec:

    Cospri's Malice
    Jewelled Foil
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  • +25% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • Trigger a Socketed Cold Spell on Melee Critical Strike
  • +257 Intelligence Requirement
  • No Physical Damage
  • Adds 84 to 190 Cold Damage
  • Adds 47 to 105 Cold Damage to Spells
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • 60% increased Critical Strike Chance against Chilled Enemies
  • Breathe deep, my child.

    Let the frigid air engulf your soul.

    Embrace the eternal cold,

    And it will embrace you back.

    Cospri's Malice
    Jewelled Foil
    Click to expand
  • +25% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • Trigger a Socketed Cold Spell on Melee Critical Strike
  • +257 Intelligence Requirement
  • No Physical Damage
  • Adds 91 to 186 Cold Damage
  • Adds 51 to 109 Cold Damage to Spells
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • 60% increased Critical Strike Chance against Chilled Enemies
  • Breathe deep, my child.

    Let the frigid air engulf your soul.

    Embrace the eternal cold,

    And it will embrace you back.

    Starkonja's Head
    Silken Hood
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  • +70 to Dexterity
  • 50% reduced Damage when on Low Life
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 25% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 127% increased Evasion Rating
  • +92 to maximum Life
  • 150% increased Global Evasion Rating when on Low Life
  • There was no hero made out of Starkonja's death,

    but merely a long sleep made eternal.

    Grim Grasp
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +15% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • +55 to Strength
  • 22% increased Cold Damage
  • +36 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • +48 to maximum Life
  • Carcass Jack
    Varnished Coat
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  • 150% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  • +67 to maximum Life
  • +12% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 40% increased Area of Effect
  • 48% increased Area Damage
  • Extra gore
  • "...The discomfort shown by the others is amusing, but none

    can deny that my work has made quite the splash..."

    - Maligaro's Journal

    The Pandemonius
    Jade Amulet
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  • +24 to Dexterity
  • 24% increased Cold Damage
  • +39% to Cold Resistance
  • Chill Enemy for 1 second when Hit, reducing their Action Speed by 30%
  • Blind Chilled Enemies on Hit
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Cold Resistance against Chilled Enemies
  • A single moment sets in motion an eternal fall,

    beneath which all are buried.

    Chimeric Coil
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +15% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • 22% increased Cold Damage
  • +55 to maximum Life
  • +34 to maximum Mana
  • 8% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • +26% to Fire Resistance
  • Demon March
    Goliath Greaves
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  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +39% to Fire Resistance
  • +38% to Cold Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • 12% chance to Dodge Attack Hits
  • +35% to Lightning Resistance
  • Rune Clasp
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • 27% increased Cold Damage
  • +92 to maximum Life
  • +12% to Cold Resistance
  • +34% to Lightning Resistance
  • 10% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • +20% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • Mind Touch
    Arcanist Gloves
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  • 75% increased Energy Shield
  • +81 to maximum Life
  • +34 to maximum Mana
  • +18% to Fire Resistance
  • +46% to Cold Resistance
  • 47% increased Damage with Hits against Chilled Enemies
  • +18% to Fire and Cold Resistances


  • This are my items and gems.

    Any advice?

    Hopefully you guys can help this noob :)

    Protax010
    Jun 23, 2019 01:39:54 AM

    "
    hsiegfried44 wrote:
    Hey guys, im not sure if it was mentioned but with the new cyclone we are hitting a lot faster. The guide recommended having less than like 3.whatever in hide out. Im sitting in hide out with no buffs and im at 7.41. Has any smart people worked the numbers yet?


    Okay, too many people are getting confused now.

    Let me clear this up. BEFORE patch 3.7, when you open up your character screen in game, the maximum 'attacks per second' you should have showing should be 3.75 (with 14% cooldown recovery), for highest output of dps.
    This was due to cyclones unique mechanic of hitting twice per proc. So really you're hitting mobs 7.5 times a second.


    AFTER patch 3.7, your character screen now correctly displays cyclones hits per second. So as of right now, you can have a maximum of 7.5 APS showing (with 14% cdr)

    bbatmanx3
    Jun 23, 2019 03:03:27 AM

    Been enjoying this build a lot. Very flashy, and lots of fun.

    Been going dual wield because why not.

    One thing folks seem to have missed is that the cooldown was reduced a few leagues ago, so now the default cooldown is .15 seconds, and the spells cast sequentially, so cooldown reduction is only really helping if you have only one spell (ie. Chest)

    Dual-wield version:
    https://pastebin.com/n9RCtPH6

    Uber Elder - down (1 death - I'm bad)
    Uber Atziri - down (deathless)
    All Guardians deathless
    Delve - 300+ so far

    Character is EmptyMalice if curious.

    Rjr3412
    Jun 23, 2019 03:10:34 AM

    "
    bbatmanx3 wrote:
    "
    hsiegfried44 wrote:
    Hey guys, im not sure if it was mentioned but with the new cyclone we are hitting a lot faster. The guide recommended having less than like 3.whatever in hide out. Im sitting in hide out with no buffs and im at 7.41. Has any smart people worked the numbers yet?


    Okay, too many people are getting confused now.

    Let me clear this up. BEFORE patch 3.7, when you open up your character screen in game, the maximum 'attacks per second' you should have showing should be 3.75 (with 14% cooldown recovery), for highest output of dps.
    This was due to cyclones unique mechanic of hitting twice per proc. So really you're hitting mobs 7.5 times a second.


    AFTER patch 3.7, your character screen now correctly displays cyclones hits per second. So as of right now, you can have a maximum of 7.5 APS showing (with 14% cdr)


    So we should have 7.5 attacks per second for this build?

    Shetzki
    Jun 23, 2019 14:39:33 PM

    "
    So we should have 7.5 attacks per second for this build?

    yep.

    Shmitok02
    Jun 23, 2019 15:05:41 PM

    Also for dual wielding the ideal attacks per sec would be 15 ?

    Shetzki
    Jun 23, 2019 15:24:42 PM

    Vortex - Arcane Surge - Curse On Hit - Frostbite

    OR

    Vortex - Arcane Surge - Bonechill - Unbound Ailments

    dguay
    Jun 23, 2019 17:11:56 PM
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