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edessiex wrote:
Hi Guys,
Having fun levelling this build (using smite as advised somewhere on the forum). I gathered the requested equipment for later.

Which claw should I use ?

Kraken Razor
Noble Claw
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  • +40 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • Socketed Gems are supported by Level 20 Multistrike
  • +50 to Intelligence
  • Adds 6 to 112 Lightning Damage
  • 21% increased Attack Speed
  • 6% chance to Blind Enemies on Hit with Attacks
  • Viper Needle
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Ancestral Call
  • 89% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 19 to 40 Physical Damage
  • Adds 10 to 162 Lightning Damage
  • +37% to Cold Resistance
  • 14% increased Area of Effect
  • +50 Life gained for each Blinded Enemy Hit by this Weapon
  • Damnation Razor
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Poison
  • Adds 2 to 76 Lightning Damage
  • 9% increased Attack Speed
  • +21 to maximum Mana
  • 15% chance to Poison on Hit
  • Damnation Roar
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +7% Chance to Block Attack Damage while Dual Wielding
  • Adds 40 to 67 Cold Damage
  • +5 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • 5% chance to gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill


  • Thanks !
    Viper Needle. Re-roll Razor if/when you can afford it.

    tainium
    Oct 28, 2018 20:49:38 PM

    Thanks !

    Viper needle looks good, except for the unecessary ancestral call.

    edessiex
    Oct 28, 2018 22:33:28 PM

    Hi

    From my gear below, whats best tweeks i can do.. any tips appreciated.

    Tempest Gutter
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Poison
  • +36 to Dexterity
  • Adds 7 to 15 Physical Damage
  • Adds 33 to 60 Fire Damage
  • Adds 49 to 76 Cold Damage
  • +36 Life gained for each Blinded Enemy Hit by this Weapon
  • 20% chance to Poison on Hit
  • Geofri's Legacy
    Great Crown
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  • +1 to Level of Socketed Gems
  • 67% increased Armour and Energy Shield
  • +20% to Fire Resistance
  • +19% to Cold Resistance
  • +15% to Lightning Resistance
  • +22% to Chaos Resistance
  • +1 to maximum number of Summoned Holy Relics
  • Summoned Holy Relics have 24% reduced Cooldown Recovery Speed
  • "Though Geofri's beacon was extinguished,

    his embers may yet light our way."

    - Victario, The People's Poet

    The Coming Calamity
    Destroyer Regalia
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  • +2 to Level of Socketed Herald Gems
  • 90% increased Energy Shield
  • 35% chance to avoid being Stunned for each Herald Skill affecting you
  • Mana Reservation of Herald Skills is always 45%
  • Whiff of cold, tiny spark, faintest flicker in the dark.

    Embers swirl, ice takes form, sky exposed - Death's perfect storm.

    Frost and thunder, flames shine bright, ruin walks the land tonight.

    By your hand they dance and bend, wield them and brook no end.

    Essence Worm
    Unset Ring
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  • Has 1 Socket
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • Socketed Gems Reserve No Mana
  • 40% increased Mana Reserved
  • "This thing is not a pet. It is a parasite that feeds on the very will of its host.

    Like any part of nightmare, it has found a way to make its price... acceptable."

    - Malachai the Soulless

    Hate Idol
    Citrine Amulet
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  • +16 to Strength and Dexterity
  • +13 to all Attributes
  • +35 to Dexterity
  • +47 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +76 to maximum Life
  • +26% to Lightning Resistance
  • Adds 5 to 9 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • Woe Coil
    Ruby Ring
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  • +25% to Fire Resistance
  • +79 to maximum Life
  • 22% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +45% to Cold Resistance
  • +3 Life gained on Kill
  • +23 to maximum Energy Shield
  • Victario's Charity
    Laminated Kite Shield
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  • +8% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +68 to maximum Life
  • +23% to Lightning Resistance
  • +11% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Area of Effect of Aura Skills
  • 10% chance to grant a Power Charge to nearby Allies on Kill
  • 5% chance to grant a Frenzy Charge to nearby Allies on Hit
  • A man's life is the greatest gift he can give.

    Death Dash
    Titan Greaves
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  • +47 to Strength
  • 38% increased Armour
  • +33% to Fire Resistance
  • +21% to Lightning Resistance
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • +61 to maximum Life
  • Maelström Thread
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +57 to maximum Life
  • +35% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Cold Resistance
  • +35% to Lightning Resistance
  • 12% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Damnation Talons
    Shagreen Gloves
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  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Poison
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 16 Faster Attacks
  • 9% increased Attack Speed
  • 8% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +19% to Lightning Resistance
  • 29% increased Damage with Poison
  • +57 to maximum Life
  • Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Heat
    -
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  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • 40% increased Duration
  • Ample Silver Flask of Warding
    -
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  • +20 to Maximum Charges
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • Experimenter's Basalt Flask of Grounding
    -
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  • Immunity to Shock during Flask effect Removes Shock on use
  • 37% increased Duration
  • Experimenter's Ruby Flask of Dousing
    -
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  • Immunity to Ignite during Flask effect Removes Burning on use
  • 40% increased Duration
  • Forbidden Taste
    Quartz Flask
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  • Recover 91% of Life on use
  • 8% of Maximum Life taken as Chaos Damage per second
  • Your reach exceeds your grasp.

    jubsey
    Oct 29, 2018 16:57:12 PM

    Spirit Slicer
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +44 to Dexterity
  • Adds 5 to 113 Lightning Damage
  • 27% increased Attack Speed
  • 9% chance to Blind Enemies on Hit with Attacks
  • 25% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit
  • Victario's Charity
    Laminated Kite Shield
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  • +8% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +70 to maximum Life
  • +28% to Lightning Resistance
  • +11% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Area of Effect of Aura Skills
  • 10% chance to grant a Power Charge to nearby Allies on Kill
  • 5% chance to grant a Frenzy Charge to nearby Allies on Hit
  • A man's life is the greatest gift he can give.

    The Coming Calamity
    Destroyer Regalia
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  • +2 to Level of Socketed Herald Gems
  • 98% increased Energy Shield
  • 35% chance to avoid being Stunned for each Herald Skill affecting you
  • Mana Reservation of Herald Skills is always 45%
  • Whiff of cold, tiny spark, faintest flicker in the dark.

    Embers swirl, ice takes form, sky exposed - Death's perfect storm.

    Frost and thunder, flames shine bright, ruin walks the land tonight.

    By your hand they dance and bend, wield them and brook no end.

    Vengeance Shelter
    Eternal Burgonet
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  • +2 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
  • +66 to maximum Life
  • +47% to Fire Resistance
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • +29% to Cold Resistance
  • Spirit Palm
    Sorcerer Gloves
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  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Poison
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Faster Attacks
  • Socketed Skills have 18% increased Attack Speed
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • +3 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 16% increased Poison Duration
  • +62 to maximum Life
  • Victory Goad
    Goliath Greaves
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  • +87 to maximum Life
  • +23% to Fire Resistance
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • +30% to Lightning Resistance
  • Loath Buckle
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • 21% increased Lightning Damage
  • +93 to maximum Life
  • +44% to Fire Resistance
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage
  • 21% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • +21% to Cold Resistance
  • Viper Heart
    Onyx Amulet
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  • +16 to all Attributes
  • +12 to Dexterity
  • +42 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +52 to maximum Mana
  • Minions have 19% increased Movement Speed
  • +21% to Fire Resistance
  • Essence Worm
    Unset Ring
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  • Has 1 Socket
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • Socketed Gems Reserve No Mana
  • 40% increased Mana Reserved
  • "This thing is not a pet. It is a parasite that feeds on the very will of its host.

    Like any part of nightmare, it has found a way to make its price... acceptable."

    - Malachai the Soulless

    Pandemonium Grip
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +16% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • +19 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +67 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +41% to Cold Resistance
  • +24% to Lightning Resistance
  • Perpetual Quicksilver Flask of Staunching
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  • 28% increased Charge Recovery
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
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  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 14% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.

    Witchfire Brew
    Stibnite Flask
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  • Creates a Smoke Cloud on Use
  • 50% increased Charges used
  • 30% increased Damage Over Time during Flask Effect
  • Grants Level 21 Despair Curse Aura during Flask Effect
  • "Think of those that cursed us, judged us,

    and burned our sisters upon the pyre.

    Think of their names as you drink,

    and even their children will feel what we do to them today."

    -Vadinya, to her coven

    Experimenter's Basalt Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • 39% increased Duration
  • Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Heat
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • 32% increased Duration
  • With the Purity update today, this is my final form after testing damn near everything (I probably miss something obvious).

    https://pastebin.com/By6HLD7s

    IchiMorghulis
    Oct 29, 2018 18:31:42 PM

    "
    IchiMorghulis wrote:
    Spirit Slicer
    Gemini Claw
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  • +38 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +14 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • +44 to Dexterity
  • Adds 5 to 113 Lightning Damage
  • 27% increased Attack Speed
  • 9% chance to Blind Enemies on Hit with Attacks
  • 25% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit
  • Victario's Charity
    Laminated Kite Shield
    Click to expand
  • +8% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +70 to maximum Life
  • +28% to Lightning Resistance
  • +11% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Area of Effect of Aura Skills
  • 10% chance to grant a Power Charge to nearby Allies on Kill
  • 5% chance to grant a Frenzy Charge to nearby Allies on Hit
  • A man's life is the greatest gift he can give.

    The Coming Calamity
    Destroyer Regalia
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Herald Gems
  • 98% increased Energy Shield
  • 35% chance to avoid being Stunned for each Herald Skill affecting you
  • Mana Reservation of Herald Skills is always 45%
  • Whiff of cold, tiny spark, faintest flicker in the dark.

    Embers swirl, ice takes form, sky exposed - Death's perfect storm.

    Frost and thunder, flames shine bright, ruin walks the land tonight.

    By your hand they dance and bend, wield them and brook no end.

    Vengeance Shelter
    Eternal Burgonet
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
  • +66 to maximum Life
  • +47% to Fire Resistance
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • +29% to Cold Resistance
  • Spirit Palm
    Sorcerer Gloves
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  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Poison
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Faster Attacks
  • Socketed Skills have 18% increased Attack Speed
  • 14% increased Attack Speed
  • +3 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 16% increased Poison Duration
  • +62 to maximum Life
  • Victory Goad
    Goliath Greaves
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  • +87 to maximum Life
  • +23% to Fire Resistance
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • +30% to Lightning Resistance
  • Loath Buckle
    Stygian Vise
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • 21% increased Lightning Damage
  • +93 to maximum Life
  • +44% to Fire Resistance
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage
  • 21% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • +21% to Cold Resistance
  • Viper Heart
    Onyx Amulet
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  • +16 to all Attributes
  • +12 to Dexterity
  • +42 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +83 to maximum Life
  • +52 to maximum Mana
  • Minions have 19% increased Movement Speed
  • +21% to Fire Resistance
  • Essence Worm
    Unset Ring
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  • Has 1 Socket
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Aura Gems
  • Socketed Gems Reserve No Mana
  • 40% increased Mana Reserved
  • "This thing is not a pet. It is a parasite that feeds on the very will of its host.

    Like any part of nightmare, it has found a way to make its price... acceptable."

    - Malachai the Soulless

    Pandemonium Grip
    Two-Stone Ring
    Click to expand
  • +16% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • +19 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +67 to maximum Life
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +41% to Cold Resistance
  • +24% to Lightning Resistance
  • Perpetual Quicksilver Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • 28% increased Charge Recovery
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
    Click to expand
  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 14% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.

    Witchfire Brew
    Stibnite Flask
    Click to expand
  • Creates a Smoke Cloud on Use
  • 50% increased Charges used
  • 30% increased Damage Over Time during Flask Effect
  • Grants Level 21 Despair Curse Aura during Flask Effect
  • "Think of those that cursed us, judged us,

    and burned our sisters upon the pyre.

    Think of their names as you drink,

    and even their children will feel what we do to them today."

    -Vadinya, to her coven

    Experimenter's Basalt Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • 39% increased Duration
  • Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Heat
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • 32% increased Duration
  • With the Purity update today, this is my final form after testing damn near everything (I probably miss something obvious).

    https://pastebin.com/By6HLD7s




    Nice to see you trying to squeeze out more damage, how is losing haste for the build? no more phasing.

    Was wondering if it's beneficial to get an aul's for free haste on the amulet
    Maybe if possible to fit in a discipline sgoh + phasing watcher's eye?

    OmniMax
    Oct 29, 2018 22:31:48 PM

    "
    Nice to see you trying to squeeze out more damage, how is losing haste for the build? no more phasing.

    Was wondering if it's beneficial to get an aul's for free haste on the amulet
    Maybe if possible to fit in a discipline sgoh + phasing watcher's eye?


    I had never used haste. I used the exact OP build until level 94, then I got bored but didn't want to roll another character as I think this build can get me deep into the mine. I started messing around with different setups, the first being getting a watcher's eye with ES on hit, right away I knew this is very strong defensively. Most of my changes are for getting stronger defensively; for instance, grabbing the Indominable passive and the "of Light" glove enchant. In the middle of this, PoB added support for the Purity and the crawler.

    I was surprise by how strong wither stacks were and how much dps despair adds to the damage of both the crawler and purity minions.

    But going back to your question. I initially tried to incorporate both Haste and Discipline into the build, but just couldn't make it work mana wise. I played around with the permanent phasing from Haste, while is cool to look at, this is probably better suited for range agony player. Since you have to get up close and personal, all the monster knows that you are there, and you can cyclone thru all the monsters anyway. I don't recommend perma phasing for this build, but I do highly recommend ES on hit.

    The damage right now is stupidly high, you don't need the level 4 empower, or the level 21 agony gems. I set up my atlas to farm T16 underground seas and for delving. The funny thing is I devoted a 4 link for a wither totem and I never get to use it, all the map bosses just die way too fast, perhap when I encounter Aul one day.

    edit: I wish I can add one more flask (granite or jade) but I can't justify taking any of these out. The sapphire flask looks out of place, but you really want freeze immunity in the mine. I also keep an "of grounding" topaz flask and an "of dousing" ruby flask to sub in as needed.

    edit 2: I'm still trying to roll a claw with life gain on blinded enemies, the T1 local A.S. with chance to blind was too good to pass up, my ES on hit Watcher's Eye helps mitigate that loss somewhat. The ideal claw will have all three along with a open prefix for bleed. In case you're wondering, I bought the helm enchant and roll the helm, glove and claw myself. I think I spent about 3 ex in currencies rolling them.

    IchiMorghulis
    Oct 30, 2018 00:46:53 AM

    Yah, I've been reading your build's progression these few days.

    I stopped at level 90 with op's set up, after a few alt chars thinking of going back so started to see what you ended up with.

    Found a disc/haste watcher I was talking about, so was wondering if it would be nice to swap out for auls for free haste/phasing.

    How do you think about +2 weapon range on suffix bench mod on claws?
    Food for thought haha.

    Thanks again for your further testing, definitely seems nice to push so much more damage on an already powerful build.

    And thank the OP for his build. :)

    OmniMax
    Oct 30, 2018 09:16:19 AM

    "
    Found a disc/haste watcher I was talking about, so was wondering if it would be nice to swap out for auls for free haste/phasing.

    How do you think about +2 weapon range on suffix bench mod on claws?
    Food for thought haha.


    I considered Auls' Haste but what prevented me from going that route is my desire to overcap resistances and to match them up so I can make use of The Wise Oak for the 10% reduced elemental damage taken. I needed to overcap because of the T16 underground sea strategy, I use sextants and I vaal all the maps. Quite often vaaling makes the map unid.

    +2 weapon range is a good thing to have as you are able to blind/bleed more enemies with each pass and hitting more enemies is always good for Lgoh. It is worth considering for a claw/cyclone build as it directly scales the cyclone's aoe, you will lose about 9% more damage from having to swap out bloodlust.

    IchiMorghulis
    Oct 30, 2018 17:18:23 PM

    Yah, aul's would make the resists a bit tight.

    Yah saw your choice of bloodlust over good old minion damage, guess it does give those guys that extra damage. Are they that good since agony is mainly for the aoe and those guys for single target?

    And I see some ppl fossiling/essense claws for 60+ minion damage, how much would the fair against the bleed? (You mentioned you wanted to craft a claw yourself, if it's not essence, just chaos spam until desired ias/lgohwb/blind%?)

    For the helm, what base seems the best for crafting? ES or armor?
    If defense is less of an issue, would fossiling the -9 chaos resist aoe be good?

    Thanks again

    OmniMax
    Oct 30, 2018 20:40:39 PM

    "
    Yah, aul's would make the resists a bit tight.

    Yah saw your choice of bloodlust over good old minion damage, guess it does give those guys that extra damage. Are they that good since agony is mainly for the aoe and those guys for single target?

    And I see some ppl fossiling/essense claws for 60+ minion damage, how much would the fair against the bleed? (You mentioned you wanted to craft a claw yourself, if it's not essence, just chaos spam until desired ias/lgohwb/blind%?)

    For the helm, what base seems the best for crafting? ES or armor?
    If defense is less of an issue, would fossiling the -9 chaos resist aoe be good?

    Thanks again


    Those Purity guys are not very useful while mapping, but against single target, they hit like a truck. They generate their own wither stacks (Withering Touch), you can expect 2 to 4 stacks, these will stack on top of the wither totem's limit of 15. These stacks will also benefit the crawler (6% inc. damage TAKEN per stack), it's like a free 12% to 24% MORE damage for your crawler.

    Minion Damage on the claw is great, but to hit this AND get 2 to 3 of the other mods is going to require a huge investment in fossils. You can easily test for how much extra dps it gives you by editing your claw with "Minions deal X% increased damage" in PoB.

    Helm base doesn't matter, I bought the cheapest one that have the +2 agony projectiles enchant (It cost me 50c then, I'm sure it's much higher now). The best would be an Elder helm with that enchant so you can roll "Socketed Gems are supported by Minion Damage" ("Socketed Gems ... Conc. Effect" is also good but it only benefits the slams and not the default attack). It should be noted that I'm using this enchant because of the lost of the relics, those relics were awesome for clearing.

    I can't help you with the -9% chaos resist. What you can do is to create one in PoB or copy one off trade and plug it into PoB.

    The priorities should be lgohwb - blind - ias. Because you can mastercraft AS.

    One last thing, if you are planning on delving deep, defense is the ONLY issue.

    edit: the wither stacks only affects the chaos portion of the damage dealt.

    IchiMorghulis
    Oct 31, 2018 06:18:36 AM
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