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Hellllo hello, I read through the entire guide & the FAQ section but am still having a horrendous time around level 40 SSF and keep dying, the dps output wasn’t that good on my end, not sure what I’m doing wrong.

Im_Lost_AF
Mar 27, 2019 19:15:20 PM

Your build makes a lot of claims about being scaleable, viable on budget, etc etc. "-Can start on a budget, a good league starter too" Yet the common complaint seems to be a lack of viability without your mid-range gear, which is crazy expensive.

Kaom's is 190c in Synthesis
A really shitty helm, with the two requirements is 45c
Grelwoods are 40c
Watcher Eye with Anger mod is 40c
Cinderswallow 15c
Tombfist w/ 2x Abyssal 300c

So you are pitching an easily scaleable build which only really achieves close to what you are promising with nearly 4-5 exalts worth of investment.

You might want to add a tag somewhere in the pros/cons that the build is marginal on a budget, but can scale well with unlimited or high-end budgets, to avoid some of the backlash/bait-switch that is occurring.

pasomateo
Mar 27, 2019 23:35:19 PM

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FatalD4mage wrote:
hi guys one question im new into jugg and my question is is it worth to use this ring with poachers mark but without the stat life gain for each enemy hit by my attacks?

Blight Finger
Topaz Ring
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  • +28% to Lightning Resistance
  • +29 to Dexterity
  • Adds 9 to 17 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Curse Enemies with Level 12 Poacher's Mark on Hit
  • +50 to maximum Life


  • ?


    You'll have a hard time in hexproof maps, other than that, I think you should be okay.

    "
    pasomateo wrote:
    Your build makes a lot of claims about being scaleable, viable on budget, etc etc. "-Can start on a budget, a good league starter too" Yet the common complaint seems to be a lack of viability without your mid-range gear, which is crazy expensive.

    Kaom's is 190c in Synthesis
    A really shitty helm, with the two requirements is 45c
    Grelwoods are 40c
    Watcher Eye with Anger mod is 40c
    Cinderswallow 15c
    Tombfist w/ 2x Abyssal 300c

    So you are pitching an easily scaleable build which only really achieves close to what you are promising with nearly 4-5 exalts worth of investment.

    You might want to add a tag somewhere in the pros/cons that the build is marginal on a budget, but can scale well with unlimited or high-end budgets, to avoid some of the backlash/bait-switch that is occurring.


    It doesnt take all that to get started with, it has been my league starter and everything went pretty smoothly.

    davebertz
    Mar 27, 2019 23:39:18 PM

    "
    pasomateo wrote:
    Your build makes a lot of claims about being scaleable, viable on budget, etc etc. "-Can start on a budget, a good league starter too" Yet the common complaint seems to be a lack of viability without your mid-range gear, which is crazy expensive.

    Kaom's is 190c in Synthesis
    A really shitty helm, with the two requirements is 45c
    Grelwoods are 40c
    Watcher Eye with Anger mod is 40c
    Cinderswallow 15c
    Tombfist w/ 2x Abyssal 300c

    So you are pitching an easily scaleable build which only really achieves close to what you are promising with nearly 4-5 exalts worth of investment.

    You might want to add a tag somewhere in the pros/cons that the build is marginal on a budget, but can scale well with unlimited or high-end budgets, to avoid some of the backlash/bait-switch that is occurring.



    the only thing occurring is that people like to complain.
    they see the word "budget" in a sentence and completely ignore anything else they read.
    when they hear "budget" they only think about a 5C build that can one-shot shaper.

    thats not how things work sadly.
    sure you can make a build with tons of damage for very low currency, but what about everything else?
    survive-abiliy? versatility? QOL?...
    cuz that budget build will do extremely good at shaper, but will be a cancer to play for anything else.


    when you read: "Can start on a budget, a good league starter too" what you should understand is that the build can start without the end-game gear and work its way towards those items.
    unlike builds that REQUIRE you to have some items for the build to even work (flicker strike, Cast On Crit etc..).
    which in turns mean that it can be a league starter too.

    until you can afford the core items you can use any chest, helmet, sword, gloves an so on.

    also, by mentioning cinderswallow and dual socket tombfists you just show us that you really dont know what you are talking about.
    the flask isnt in the "main" gear section, its in the higher budget section.
    and if its only 15c, why you cry about it so much? thats still cheap.
    about the gloves- it says in the guide that you dont need the dual socket.
    its enough to have one socket for the intimidation debuff.


    the funny thing is that NONE of the guys that "complained" about the gear being expensive actually tried to use the budget options, or even the non-GG ones.

    i mean, people come here and bitch about a 7L helmet with a legacy enchant being expensive and they cant get it so the build is "broken" and "unplayable" without it.
    OFCOURSE its expensive, its a GG item!
    but you dont need the 7L nor the enchant to do end-game content, i just min\maxed mine and showed an option for people that are willing to spend more on the build.
    i did shaper easily with so much worse items..


    please show me a build that can facetank content with brain-less playstyle like mine for the same amount of currency.

    hybridboy
    Mar 28, 2019 00:55:25 AM

    Hello,

    Not sure if this has been covered or not. I somewhat follow this guide but put my own twist to squeeze out more damage as I can survive with a bit less health. I've decided to try the new skill "Wave of conviction" in a CWDT link. To do this I needed more gem sockets, which led me to use a 7 link "level 1 maim" Elder chest with an additional curse crafted mod. The way wave of conviction works in this setup is simple, once it procs off of the CWDT it applies a -25% fire or lightning exposure(whichever is highest damage done). Since we have avatar of fire, it's always the fire exposure. I've killed shaper/uberelder this league so far and completely melted them. I use a poachers mark ring, and since i have extra gem slots, and the extra curse, I have the choice of either more damage or more defense with the curse setup.

    Shredizzle
    Mar 28, 2019 06:48:54 AM

    "
    pasomateo wrote:
    Your build makes a lot of claims about being scaleable, viable on budget, etc etc. "-Can start on a budget, a good league starter too" Yet the common complaint seems to be a lack of viability without your mid-range gear, which is crazy expensive.

    Kaom's is 190c in Synthesis
    A really shitty helm, with the two requirements is 45c
    Grelwoods are 40c
    Watcher Eye with Anger mod is 40c
    Cinderswallow 15c
    Tombfist w/ 2x Abyssal 300c

    So you are pitching an easily scaleable build which only really achieves close to what you are promising with nearly 4-5 exalts worth of investment.

    You might want to add a tag somewhere in the pros/cons that the build is marginal on a budget, but can scale well with unlimited or high-end budgets, to avoid some of the backlash/bait-switch that is occurring.


    Lvl 84 Jugg, got Grelwood and Remorse, everything else is random rares and doing just fine. Currently mapping T5-T6 and gathering currency/items for upgrades. Maybe the people who complain should l2p...

    silas66
    Mar 28, 2019 06:57:57 AM

    Nice build/guide....only 1 question maybe it has been covered and i'm sorry if it is.

    Any skill gems i should not max/Max with 20% quality? ty

    panteradw
    Mar 28, 2019 09:47:12 AM

    If anyone want a budget build then maybe try my build I used back in 3.5 and stop whining about the cost of this build because it's a great framework to modify for budget. 1.2M shaper dps using calculator and can survive ez all of shaper attacks besides the hyperbeam. Only thing truly expensive is Dying Sun and if you think anything else is expensive in my build then learn how to make currency better.

    POB Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/kqfHjerW

    Hansworth
    Mar 28, 2019 10:22:55 AM

    Is there any reason you don't get AS on your abyssal jewels? Is fire damage on hit is better than the 3-5% you get?


    I've never played PoE before this league and this is my first char, so thanks for the build. So far it has been pretty idiot proof for me (though I can't speak for how different builds would feel with the same investment obviously). Some cliff notes for gear progression:

    - High AS claw with LoH for leveling/low tier mapping
    - I used Faster Attacks instead of one of the blue gems (I was lucky and had a Tabula drop early) as Multistrike feels annoying with low AS
    - Thief's Torment solves most your life leech issues and all your mana issues, allowing you to easily transition to Grelwood before being able to afford LoH gear
    - I link Poacher's Mark with CWDT (moved totem to shield, never needed Enlighten so far) which helps a lot when you are being bursted and gives you AS as well
    - Grelwood->Helm->Kaom's was my progression. Note that I used a Tabula the entire time until I got the helm with no problems.
    - I spent very little chaos on the rest of my gear because as long as it has resistances and some HP it didn't feel like it mattered at all

    Whurthic
    Mar 28, 2019 13:16:15 PM

    Guys, here's my setup, using 6L Belly and a -res +2proj helmet. Sitting on 8.7k life and managd to do all content, including shaper, uber elder, mastermind, etc.. I'm lvl 92.

    Grelwood Shank
    Eternal Sword
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  • +475 to Accuracy Rating
  • 215% increased Physical Damage
  • 19% increased Attack Speed
  • 80% increased Armour while stationary
  • Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles if you've been Hit Recently
  • Point Blank
  • Iron Reflexes while stationary
  • Through countless seasons they stand, stoic,

    Each season leaving its mark;

    a memory written in fibrous flesh.

    Loath Halo
    Hubris Circlet
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  • +89 to maximum Life
  • Regenerate 15.4 Life per second
  • +9% to Fire Resistance
  • Nearby Enemies have -9% to Fire Resistance
  • Lioneye's Remorse
    Pinnacle Tower Shield
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  • +30 to maximum Life
  • 216% increased Armour
  • +178 to maximum Life
  • 5% reduced Movement Speed
  • 20% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • -25 Physical Damage taken from Projectile Attacks
  • +5% Chance to Block
  • Marceus' unblemished shield is a testament

    to his arrogance... and his fate.

    Belly of the Beast
    Full Wyrmscale
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  • 157% increased Armour
  • 39% increased maximum Life
  • +14% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • Extra gore
  • There is no safer place

    Than the Belly of the Beast

    Sol Vise
    Murder Mitts
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  • +47 to Intelligence
  • 13% increased Attack Speed
  • +89 to maximum Life
  • +45% to Cold Resistance
  • 36% increased Armour
  • +28 to maximum Life
  • Blood Spark
    Vaal Greaves
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  • +15 to Armour
  • +101 to maximum Life
  • +40% to Fire Resistance
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • +35% to Cold Resistance
  • Victory Band
    Topaz Ring
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  • +26% to Lightning Resistance
  • +25 to Dexterity
  • +6 to Evasion Rating
  • +56 to maximum Life
  • Curse Enemies with Level 8 Poacher's Mark on Hit
  • +15% to Cold and Lightning Resistances
  • Pandemonium Finger
    Iron Ring
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  • Adds 1 to 4 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +12 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +66 to maximum Life
  • +19 Life gained for each Enemy hit by your Attacks
  • +24 to Dexterity
  • Xoph's Blood
    Amber Amulet
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  • +30 to Strength
  • 10% increased maximum Life
  • +34% to Fire Resistance
  • 10% increased Strength
  • Damage Penetrates 10% Fire Resistance
  • Cover Enemies in Ash when they Hit you
  • Avatar of Fire
  • We are his blood.

    Through us he carries his burning message.

    Pandemonium Cord
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +85 to maximum Life
  • +37% to Fire Resistance
  • 25% increased Life Recovery from Flasks
  • 19% increased Flask Life Recovery rate
  • 28% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • +19% to Cold and Lightning Resistances

  • Blood of the Karui
    Sanctified Life Flask
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  • 100% increased Life Recovered
  • 14% increased Recovery rate
  • Recover Full Life at the end of the Flask Effect
  • "Kaom fought and killed for his people.

    Kaom bled for his people.

    And so the people gave, the people bled,

    So their King might go on."

    - Lavianga, Advisor to Kaom

    Chemist's Silver Flask of Staunching
    -
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  • 24% reduced Charges used
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Dying Sun
    Ruby Flask
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  • Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles during Flask Effect
  • 16% increased Area of Effect during Flask Effect
  • All things must die.

    Whether you burn out or explode is up to you.

    The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
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  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 14% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.

    Ample Sulphur Flask of Heat
    -
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  • Creates Consecrated Ground on Use
  • +17 to Maximum Charges
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use


  • I can't actually link the jewels, but they're all 6-7% life + 10% or more AS, one with +2 mana gained on hit and 7% life and a Watcher's eye with 50% fire dmg while affected by anger.

    chaossbart
    Mar 28, 2019 13:45:25 PM
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