Forum Index Ranger [3.8] TOXIC RAIN + HERALD OF AGONY Pathfinder Build (6-8K life) (UBER ELDER done!) +VIDEO GUIDE!

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sefa222 wrote:
what does red circles in tree means in path of building
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so they are important to get first or

nope, i guess i've been just searching for something.. lol. If you input something in the search field below the tree it will highlight nodes containing the word. Sorry for confusion!

Angry_Roleplayer
Oct 01, 2018 19:33:10 PM

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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?

Angry_Roleplayer
Oct 01, 2018 19:36:28 PM

I bit more info guys!

I killed Shaper today, all guardians including elder guardians multiple times... All very easy. Shaper is also easy. Damage is there.
Hydra and Phoenix are easiest. Surprisingly Phoenix is even easier than Hydra, as he's walking and with massive pod AOE ge can be slowed down to oblivion..
Minotaur is normal, just don't get rekd by the rocks. The swing itself does not hurt much.
CHimera is of cause the hardest and longest. No brainer... Don't die on the "poson snakes" phase as well as the "hound" phase. Still easy.

Attempted Uber Elder several times and all were failure, downed them both below 50% and that's it. I need more damage or better skills for sure (and i've killed Uber Elder before).
This led me to an idea to get back from Quill Rain to Lioneye's Glare as i somehow realized i need STRONGER hits. I am constantly moving around so i technically can't just stand and spam stuff. So now i need a 6L Lioneye's.
Unfortunately i sank a lot of currency into shaper frags today, and i believe i won't be able to afford fuses for a 6L at this point or just buy more frags. If any of you guys have unneeded currency on Delve, or a 6L Lioneye's Glare for testing purposes = all would be greatly appreciated ! I will return the bow once i finish all testing!
I'll see tmorrow how much i have left.. so you can always watch my Uber Elder attempts on stream.

Angry_Roleplayer
Oct 01, 2018 19:47:44 PM

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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?


I do not record video of my fight (I died 3 times), I just have screenshots.




I would try to make a good video of this fight.

Ombre_vengerese
Oct 02, 2018 01:25:26 AM

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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?


I do not record video of my fight (I died 3 times), I just have screenshots.




I would try to make a good video of this fight.

Nice! I have questions for you if you don't mind. Will ask them in separate post

Angry_Roleplayer
Oct 02, 2018 07:33:05 AM

Uber Elder is a tough fight, but absolutely doable as a Pathfinder Toxic Rain using Quill Rain. The fight won't be as easy as a 3.3 Arc Trapper with 2x Shimmerons, ofc. I bricked my first attempt, and then succeeded on the second while dying twice. On my second attempt, I targeted the Propagators better, focused more on what my Mirage was doing, and dodged *less* so I could have higher DPS.

I have a POB of my gear from that fight, and my Character Profile which has a few upgrades (and is mapping focused).

https://pastebin.com/fpmVmD9A
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BlueeGreg/characters?characterName=The_Georgian

Here are some general recommendations and tips:

Change Witchfire Brew flask to Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Adrenaline. Our flask bonuses means this is +7 Max Cold Res for us, and Witchfire's curse isn't gonna do !@#$ in Uber Elder anyway. Also you never hold still in the fight, so the Smoke Cloud from Witchfire is also wasted.

Do not use Coralito, or other flasks like that. Dying Sun can be used since the extra arrows and area will solidify your boss DPS, but is probably too expensive given the budget focus of this build.

I recommend Life flask, Quartz, Sapphire, Silver, and Quicksilver. Can also use Sulphur, or Jade.

Herald of Agony feels like a noob trap to me. The DPS is hard to quantify and the mana reservation is hard to justify. I made my Agony into full utility 4L; Agony, Faster Attacks, Withering Touch, and Culling Strike. I don't think Uber Elder / Uber Shaper can actually be 'culled', so Culling can be changed for DPS, or maybe even Blind.

Like others have said, a 4L with RAT Barrage GMP and Withering Touch is very good for lasering in some Withering stacks. The uptime on this totem is very low in an Uber Elder fight, though.

Between your quiver and your Abyss jewel(s), you should have Blind on hit and Maim on hit. Onslaught on kill is great for mapping only, ofc. Additional Arrow on the quiver is nice, but not required.

Buy a 21/0 Toxic Rain gem; Pathfinder doesn't really need the increased area that the 20 Quality would give, though having the quality is still preferred.

Considering spec'ing aggressively for Skill Effect Duration. This means dropping paper DPS on the tree, like the 4 points leading into Heavy Draw, and even giving up a jewel socket, so you can reach the Skill Effect Duration area north of Scion. This costs 7 passive points, assuming you've already pathed into Scion life.

Lots of skill duration effectively acts as a 7th link for your Toxic Rain, and is categorically strong for large, slow bosses like Uber Elder. An ideal 6-link looks like Toxic Rain, Mirage Archer, Vicious, Void, Efficacy, and Swift. Swift/Efficacy could be changed to Added Chaos, if you're not using Thief's Torment and you really need reliable upfront life and mana leech.

Do not, under any circumstance, use Concentrated Effect. Just don't do it. It'll be OK.

Both Toxic Rain helmet enchants are good. Fossil crafting in the -9 Chaos Res aura is also worth doing, though the uptime on this during Uber Elder will be low.

During the fight, focus on where your Mirage Archer is shooting. He will never target the invulnerable phases, and he will know before you do when stuff has spawned off screen, like the DREADED EVIL PROPAGATORS WHICH MUST BE KILLED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. So if your Mirage is shooting something, you should probably be shooting that same something.

If you do die, consider waiting there for a few seconds while your Mirage Archer trucks away on whatever boss is targetable. I do believe the Mirage continues to do DPS like this. At the very least this will help clear your head.

I also used Herald of Purity for this fight, for the lulz and because I could afford the 25% mana res. The Purity dudes do seem to draw occasional aggro, and the herald gives you upfront DPS which helps with leech.

Good luck!

BlueeGreg
Oct 02, 2018 12:03:10 PM

Hey Angry, thanks for the great guide.

I have some noob questions:

- Conc. effect, chaos damage or efficacy?

- RAT Barrage or ST Wither?

- Is this quiver better than maloney's?

Pain Needle
Spike-Point Arrow Quiver
Click to expand
  • Projectiles deal 10% increased Damage for each Enemy Pierced
  • +47 to Dexterity
  • +283 to Accuracy Rating
  • +43 to maximum Life
  • Bow Attacks fire an additional Arrow
  • Attacks have 20% chance to Maim on Hit
  • 22% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills


  • Thanks again.

    babsbegood
    Oct 02, 2018 13:18:04 PM

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    babsbegood wrote:
    Hey Angry, thanks for the great guide.

    I have some noob questions:

    - Conc. effect, chaos damage or efficacy?

    - RAT Barrage or ST Wither?

    - Is this quiver better than maloney's?

    Pain Needle
    Spike-Point Arrow Quiver
    Click to expand
  • Projectiles deal 10% increased Damage for each Enemy Pierced
  • +47 to Dexterity
  • +283 to Accuracy Rating
  • +43 to maximum Life
  • Bow Attacks fire an additional Arrow
  • Attacks have 20% chance to Maim on Hit
  • 22% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills


  • Thanks again.

    Chaos Damage all the way
    RAT is pretty nice, but i prefer Spell Totem for now.
    Good quiver, not better, just +1 arrow, maim, yet lower life and no additive phys. Maloney is a great defensive tool! As well as offensive since we constantlt blind enemies via smoke cloud of witchfire brew

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Oct 02, 2018 14:14:56 PM

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    BlueeGreg wrote:
    Uber Elder is a tough fight, but absolutely doable as a Pathfinder Toxic Rain using Quill Rain. The fight won't be as easy as a 3.3 Arc Trapper with 2x Shimmerons, ofc. I bricked my first attempt, and then succeeded on the second while dying twice. On my second attempt, I targeted the Propagators better, focused more on what my Mirage was doing, and dodged *less* so I could have higher DPS.

    I have a POB of my gear from that fight, and my Character Profile which has a few upgrades (and is mapping focused).

    https://pastebin.com/fpmVmD9A
    https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BlueeGreg/characters?characterName=The_Georgian

    Here are some general recommendations and tips:

    Change Witchfire Brew flask to Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Adrenaline. Our flask bonuses means this is +7 Max Cold Res for us, and Witchfire's curse isn't gonna do !@#$ in Uber Elder anyway. Also you never hold still in the fight, so the Smoke Cloud from Witchfire is also wasted.

    Do not use Coralito, or other flasks like that. Dying Sun can be used since the extra arrows and area will solidify your boss DPS, but is probably too expensive given the budget focus of this build.

    I recommend Life flask, Quartz, Sapphire, Silver, and Quicksilver. Can also use Sulphur, or Jade.

    Herald of Agony feels like a noob trap to me. The DPS is hard to quantify and the mana reservation is hard to justify. I made my Agony into full utility 4L; Agony, Faster Attacks, Withering Touch, and Culling Strike. I don't think Uber Elder / Uber Shaper can actually be 'culled', so Culling can be changed for DPS, or maybe even Blind.

    Like others have said, a 4L with RAT Barrage GMP and Withering Touch is very good for lasering in some Withering stacks. The uptime on this totem is very low in an Uber Elder fight, though.

    Between your quiver and your Abyss jewel(s), you should have Blind on hit and Maim on hit. Onslaught on kill is great for mapping only, ofc. Additional Arrow on the quiver is nice, but not required.

    Buy a 21/0 Toxic Rain gem; Pathfinder doesn't really need the increased area that the 20 Quality would give, though having the quality is still preferred.

    Considering spec'ing aggressively for Skill Effect Duration. This means dropping paper DPS on the tree, like the 4 points leading into Heavy Draw, and even giving up a jewel socket, so you can reach the Skill Effect Duration area north of Scion. This costs 7 passive points, assuming you've already pathed into Scion life.

    Lots of skill duration effectively acts as a 7th link for your Toxic Rain, and is categorically strong for large, slow bosses like Uber Elder. An ideal 6-link looks like Toxic Rain, Mirage Archer, Vicious, Void, Efficacy, and Swift. Swift/Efficacy could be changed to Added Chaos, if you're not using Thief's Torment and you really need reliable upfront life and mana leech.

    Do not, under any circumstance, use Concentrated Effect. Just don't do it. It'll be OK.

    Both Toxic Rain helmet enchants are good. Fossil crafting in the -9 Chaos Res aura is also worth doing, though the uptime on this during Uber Elder will be low.

    During the fight, focus on where your Mirage Archer is shooting. He will never target the invulnerable phases, and he will know before you do when stuff has spawned off screen, like the DREADED EVIL PROPAGATORS WHICH MUST BE KILLED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. So if your Mirage is shooting something, you should probably be shooting that same something.

    If you do die, consider waiting there for a few seconds while your Mirage Archer trucks away on whatever boss is targetable. I do believe the Mirage continues to do DPS like this. At the very least this will help clear your head.

    I also used Herald of Purity for this fight, for the lulz and because I could afford the 25% mana res. The Purity dudes do seem to draw occasional aggro, and the herald gives you upfront DPS which helps with leech.

    Good luck!

    Hi and thanx for a massive input! HIGHLY APPRECIATED!
    I sank 300c in shaper frags so it won't be soon before i start crafting a -9 helm, but yeah, it's in my priorities as well.
    What do you think about Mirage Archer Quality? I thought doing 20/20 is pretty pointless for Quill Rain.

    Angry_Roleplayer
    Oct 02, 2018 19:37:54 PM

    Just killed uber elder after several tries. My eqs is as below, and i spec into duration as recommended BlueeGreg.

    Quill Rain
    Short Bow
    Click to expand
  • +20 to Dexterity
  • 100% increased Physical Damage
  • 100% increased Attack Speed
  • +2 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks
  • 99% increased Projectile Speed
  • +30 to Accuracy Rating
  • 40% less Damage
  • "The rain of a thousand quills that whittle

    present into past, life into death."

    - Rigwald of the Ezomytes

    Torment Ward
    Praetor Crown
    Click to expand
  • 33% increased Armour and Energy Shield
  • +44% to Cold Resistance
  • +37% to Lightning Resistance
  • 14% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Nearby Enemies have -9% to Lightning Resistance
  • +63 to maximum Life
  • Drillneck
    Penetrating Arrow Quiver
    Click to expand
  • Arrows Pierce an additional Target
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • +350 to Evasion Rating
  • +46 to maximum Life
  • Adds 14 to 20 Physical Damage to Bow Attacks
  • Arrows deal 50% increased Damage with Hits and Ailments to Targets they Pierce
  • "Why waste such a fine arrow on just one man?"

    - Kiravi, Vaal Archer

    Thief's Torment
    Prismatic Ring
    Click to expand
  • +10% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 12% increased Quantity of Items found
  • Can't use other Rings
  • +20% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +59 Life gained for each Enemy hit by your Attacks
  • +30 Mana gained for each Enemy hit by your Attacks
  • 50% reduced Effect of Curses on you
  • The ring I stole,

    My finger they took,

    A shrouded mind,

    Cut their curses short,

    As I drained their spirit

    And stole their soul.

    A blessing is often a curse.

    Dendrobate
    Sentinel Jacket
    Click to expand
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 10 Lesser Poison
  • 136% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  • +40 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +25% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 95% increased Damage with Poison if you have at least 300 Dexterity
  • 23% increased Poison Duration if you have at least 150 Intelligence
  • Ask any tracker and they'll tell you:

    the most dangerous animals

    are the ones who don't bother to hide.

    Impresence
    Onyx Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +16 to all Attributes
  • 35% increased Damage over Time
  • Adds 17 to 28 Chaos Damage
  • +64 to maximum Life
  • +19% to Chaos Resistance
  • Despair has 100% reduced Mana Reservation
  • Gain Maddening Presence for 10 seconds when you Kill a Rare or Unique Enemy
  • Though its body was locked in stone,

    its essence wandered the infinite,

    learning, and preparing.

    The Embalmer
    Carnal Mitts
    Click to expand
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Vile Toxins
  • Adds 13 to 27 Chaos Damage
  • +70 to maximum Life
  • +18% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Poison Duration
  • "Decomposition takes hold too quickly!

    No, if we are to keep the specimen in perfect shape,

    we must begin the process before expiry."

    Oblivion Harness
    Stygian Vise
    Click to expand
  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +92 to maximum Life
  • +27% to Fire Resistance
  • +38% to Lightning Resistance
  • 18% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • +25% to Cold Resistance
  • Sol Trail
    Titan Greaves
    Click to expand
  • +16 to Armour
  • +97 to maximum Life
  • +43% to Fire Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • +14 to all Attributes
  • Experimenter's Quartz Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • 34% increased Duration
  • Perpetual Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline
    -
    Click to expand
  • 30% increased Charge Recovery
  • 29% increased Movement Speed during Flask effect
  • Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Chemist's Sapphire Flask of Adrenaline
    -
    Click to expand
  • 23% reduced Charges used
  • 23% increased Movement Speed during Flask effect
  • Witchfire Brew
    Stibnite Flask
    Click to expand
  • Creates a Smoke Cloud on Use
  • 50% increased Charges used
  • 35% increased Damage Over Time during Flask Effect
  • Grants Level 21 Despair Curse Aura during Flask Effect
  • "Think of those that cursed us, judged us,

    and burned our sisters upon the pyre.

    Think of their names as you drink,

    and even their children will feel what we do to them today."

    -Vadinya, to her coven



    Overall is a hard fight, it's also a fight that can snowball very fast once you're died and the floor is covered with vortexes and the propagator degen. i also manage to up cold res to 86%, not sure if that helps but yeah.. and it's true you don't really need witchfire brew in this fight, i'm more like a bad player so my 5th flask are normally untouched. lol!

    here is the youtube for anyone that's interested.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI09DwqcyXM&feature=youtu.be

    ps: is there anyway i can crop the video? i've been playing not on fullscreen for quite sometime as i frequently check pob n poetrade.

    thanks!

    churoshyo
    Oct 02, 2018 22:40:16 PM
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