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Use Brine King from pantheon, kill enemies fast and get your healthpool up. Im very rarely getting stuned, mostly only from lab boss who can hit hard.

DwaneDibbley
Mar 18, 2019 05:47:17 AM

Anyone playing this build in HC

Wondering about the stunt issue

Stochey
Mar 18, 2019 18:11:06 PM

I want to play this on standard leauge and is this build still viable? I heard ot got a huge nerf, what do you think?

Sarwar94
Mar 19, 2019 12:31:50 PM

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crunkatog wrote:
Wondering if leech-based builds in general should be looking at supplementing or replacing/superseding leech with LGOH/mana gain on hit, which are unaffected by map mods and Bloodless entity mods.
The problem is that it's very expensive to add LGOH because you either drop a support gem for it, or you run 1/2 elder LGOH rings, which really adds to your itemization costs. All of that effort and you still are adding 40 life on hit when you're already gaining 800 on hit from instant leech. It's nifty to be able to do no leech maps though, so maybe just drop a red support gem for LGOH support. Personally I don't mind rolling over that mod as it's pretty uncommon and we can do the rest of them. Well...not sure about reflect anymore =(.

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zdibe wrote:
Hi,

You don't have bad times against stuns as a Raider? Cuz I do many times xD stun after another and i'm dead... also, Raider is squishy :/ but very nice attack speed.
I was thinking about doing this build as Juggernaut, what you think?
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DwaneDibbley wrote:
Use Brine King from pantheon, kill enemies fast and get your healthpool up. Im very rarely getting stuned, mostly only from lab boss who can hit hard.
Yeah, we were already using brine king primarily for the chill reduction even though we didn't benefit from the stun stuff. Now we DO benefit. Sure it can still be a bit scary, but considering the amount of life we have plus incidental stun recovery, they should be pretty short and then brine king kicks in.

That said, I think this can definitely be played as a jugg to get that juicy attack speed, but we'll end up trading a bunch of damage for some survivability. I didn't look into huge reworks to try stacking accuracy though so that could be an interesting project to work on in my spare time.

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Stochey wrote:
Anyone playing this build in HC

Wondering about the stunt issue
Yeah, I think the answer for HC is probably to play it as a jugg. The changes to the build should be pretty minor to make it work, but there might also be jugg specific tweaks that end up helping as well that I haven't tinkered with yet.

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Sarwar94 wrote:
I want to play this on standard leauge and is this build still viable? I heard ot got a huge nerf, what do you think?
Yeah we got nerfed pretty hard, I have a small write up in the "what's new" section at the top of the guide. No ETA on a full re-write and update though, but I'll get to it when I can.

PsychicMuffin
Mar 21, 2019 16:46:20 PM

Thanks for the reply :)
What you guys think in overall the Gladiator and Gladiator with this build? Better? Worst?
Thanks in advance

zdibe
Mar 21, 2019 21:38:30 PM

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Stochey wrote:
Anyone playing this build in HC

Wondering about the stunt issue


I dont play HC, but i had problems with stuns only at early mapping after rushing thru story and getting to maps with like 2k hp and 25% resist. And now i die only to stupid map mods combo (yeh, that t14 map with twined boss and bunch of boss boosting mods looked fine until i have found its doubled crazy warband on speed).
And basalt flask, atleast for mapping is quite usefull for survivability aswell.

DwaneDibbley
Mar 22, 2019 17:37:59 PM

Theres also new interesting ring Circle of Guilt with flat phys and 2 random Herald of Purity mods which can make rather strong combo.

Herald of Purity has (up to 100%) increased Buff Effect.
(Up to 60%) increased Physical Damage while affected by Herald of Purity

DwaneDibbley
Mar 23, 2019 18:07:35 PM

I don't think you need go to raider to solve the APS problem.

With new league implicit mods on chest and ring, you can maintain permanent frenzy charge and onslaught as champion anyway. It's expensive but the defense is way better.

sx6944
Mar 24, 2019 15:51:45 PM

Ok so you said that the leech nerf hit us hard, meanwhile I decided to go on standard and make a yolo minotaur without changing anything. Everything went great, I facedtanked him etc etc...

Do the leech nerf did not arrive at standard yet? Or am I missing something? You can check my character on my profile.

BronzeMike
Mar 24, 2019 22:25:31 PM

What about Slayer for this build? Is it viable? Or maybe Ascendant slayer/jugg... ? I'm just wondering if overleech is worth it

Niinimaki
Mar 25, 2019 20:08:07 PM
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