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Hi,

I'm currently using this guide too. I'm new to the game and just starting with maps. So in short I don't really have an idea what to craft and buying wont really work either. (lack of currency)
The issue I have is, I die so damn quickly. Damage seems ok and mobs die fairly quick but whenever I approach a bunch of ranged enemies I go down. Melee enemies works ok. Bosses are a problem. Map lvl 1.

What I use atm:

Soul Sanctuary
Glorious Leather
Click to expand
  • +106 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Lightning Resistance
  • +23% to Chaos Resistance
  • +25% to Cold Resistance
  • Spirit Horn
    Secutor Helm
    Click to expand
  • +15 to Evasion Rating
  • 8% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +23 to maximum Life
  • +11% to Fire Resistance
  • +25% to Cold Resistance
  • +16% to Chaos Resistance
  • 7% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Oni-Goroshi
    Charan's Sword
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • Uses both hand slots
  • 71% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 2 to 3 Physical Damage to Attacks per Level
  • Gain Her Embrace for 3 seconds when you Ignite an Enemy
  • While in Her Embrace, take 0.5% of your total Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Fire Damage per second per Level
  • "Your name is Demon Slayer? Really? Good name for rotgut, that."

    She said: I prefer "The Goddess Of Swords". Much more dignified. And accurate.

    "Demon Slayer The Cheap And Nasty it is then. Burns going down, burns coming up?"

    She said: Every single time, Charan. And still...you'll bathe me, and you'll drink my love. Until you can't.

    Blood Band
    Two-Stone Ring
    Click to expand
  • +14% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • 5% increased Fire Damage
  • +29 to maximum Life
  • +7% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +17% to Cold Resistance
  • 8% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Vortex Knot
    Two-Stone Ring
    Click to expand
  • +13% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • Adds 11 to 19 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Adds 6 to 12 Cold Damage to Attacks
  • 9% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +12% to Fire Resistance
  • +13 Life gained on Kill
  • Pandemonium Medallion
    Lapis Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +26 to Intelligence
  • Adds 1 to 2 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +6 to maximum Life
  • Regenerate 3.3 Life per second
  • +3% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +19% to Fire Resistance
  • 16% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Blight Grip
    Sorcerer Gloves
    Click to expand
  • 33% increased Energy Shield
  • +16 to maximum Mana
  • +19% to Fire Resistance
  • +33% to Cold Resistance
  • +15% to Lightning Resistance
  • 14% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Bramble Spark
    Stealth Boots
    Click to expand
  • +24 to Dexterity
  • 22% increased Evasion Rating
  • +22 to maximum Life
  • +36% to Lightning Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • 11% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • The Magnate
    Studded Belt
    Click to expand
  • 24% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • +47 to Strength
  • 29% increased Global Physical Damage
  • 50% increased Flask Charges gained
  • +20% to all Elemental Resistances while you have at least 200 Strength
  • Few men cast a longer shadow

    than the Great Meginord of the North.


    2nd weapon set:
    Oni-Goroshi
    Charan's Sword
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • Uses both hand slots
  • 88% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 2 to 3 Physical Damage to Attacks per Level
  • Gain Her Embrace for 3 seconds when you Ignite an Enemy
  • While in Her Embrace, take 0.5% of your total Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Fire Damage per second per Level
  • "Your name is Demon Slayer? Really? Good name for rotgut, that."

    She said: I prefer "The Goddess Of Swords". Much more dignified. And accurate.

    "Demon Slayer The Cheap And Nasty it is then. Burns going down, burns coming up?"

    She said: Every single time, Charan. And still...you'll bathe me, and you'll drink my love. Until you can't.


    Flasks:
    Saturated Divine Life Flask of Curing
    -
    Click to expand
  • 50% increased Amount Recovered
  • 33% reduced Recovery rate
  • Immune to Poison during Flask Effect Removes Poison on use
  • Divine Life Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Ample Divine Life Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • +15 to Maximum Charges
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • Superior Eternal Mana Flask
    -
    Click to expand
    Quicksilver Flask of Steadiness
    -
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Block and Stun Recovery during Flask effect


  • Could you maybe give me some hints, where to go from this point? How can I get my survivability up? Needs to be cheap and not too difficult to obtain. Main reason I try this build is, that the swords were farmable. (2nd one was bonus and dropped unexpectedly quick when I was just out of fun running to hillock with a leftover char from the farming for the first.)
    (On a sidenote, getting endurance charges with the cry doesn't really work out for me. I have the feeling, I die more when I use the time to make the warcry during fights than with just brainless hitting.)

    Thanks!

    shanaramoonlight
    Jan 09, 2018 10:33:50 AM

    "
    Hi,

    I'm currently using this guide too. I'm new to the game and just starting with maps. So in short I don't really have an idea what to craft and buying wont really work either. (lack of currency)
    The issue I have is, I die so damn quickly. Damage seems ok and mobs die fairly quick but whenever I approach a bunch of ranged enemies I go down. Melee enemies works ok. Bosses are a problem. Map lvl 1.

    What I use atm:
    Spoiler
    Soul Sanctuary
    Glorious Leather
    Click to expand
  • +106 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Lightning Resistance
  • +23% to Chaos Resistance
  • +25% to Cold Resistance
  • Spirit Horn
    Secutor Helm
    Click to expand
  • +15 to Evasion Rating
  • 8% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +23 to maximum Life
  • +11% to Fire Resistance
  • +25% to Cold Resistance
  • +16% to Chaos Resistance
  • 7% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Oni-Goroshi
    Charan's Sword
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • Uses both hand slots
  • 71% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 2 to 3 Physical Damage to Attacks per Level
  • Gain Her Embrace for 3 seconds when you Ignite an Enemy
  • While in Her Embrace, take 0.5% of your total Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Fire Damage per second per Level
  • "Your name is Demon Slayer? Really? Good name for rotgut, that."

    She said: I prefer "The Goddess Of Swords". Much more dignified. And accurate.

    "Demon Slayer The Cheap And Nasty it is then. Burns going down, burns coming up?"

    She said: Every single time, Charan. And still...you'll bathe me, and you'll drink my love. Until you can't.

    Blood Band
    Two-Stone Ring
    Click to expand
  • +14% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • 5% increased Fire Damage
  • +29 to maximum Life
  • +7% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +17% to Cold Resistance
  • 8% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Vortex Knot
    Two-Stone Ring
    Click to expand
  • +13% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • Adds 11 to 19 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Adds 6 to 12 Cold Damage to Attacks
  • 9% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +12% to Fire Resistance
  • +13 Life gained on Kill
  • Pandemonium Medallion
    Lapis Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +26 to Intelligence
  • Adds 1 to 2 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +6 to maximum Life
  • Regenerate 3.3 Life per second
  • +3% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +19% to Fire Resistance
  • 16% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Blight Grip
    Sorcerer Gloves
    Click to expand
  • 33% increased Energy Shield
  • +16 to maximum Mana
  • +19% to Fire Resistance
  • +33% to Cold Resistance
  • +15% to Lightning Resistance
  • 14% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Bramble Spark
    Stealth Boots
    Click to expand
  • +24 to Dexterity
  • 22% increased Evasion Rating
  • +22 to maximum Life
  • +36% to Lightning Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • 11% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • The Magnate
    Studded Belt
    Click to expand
  • 24% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • +47 to Strength
  • 29% increased Global Physical Damage
  • 50% increased Flask Charges gained
  • +20% to all Elemental Resistances while you have at least 200 Strength
  • Few men cast a longer shadow

    than the Great Meginord of the North.


    2nd weapon set:
    Oni-Goroshi
    Charan's Sword
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Global Accuracy Rating
  • Uses both hand slots
  • 88% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 2 to 3 Physical Damage to Attacks per Level
  • Gain Her Embrace for 3 seconds when you Ignite an Enemy
  • While in Her Embrace, take 0.5% of your total Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Fire Damage per second per Level
  • "Your name is Demon Slayer? Really? Good name for rotgut, that."

    She said: I prefer "The Goddess Of Swords". Much more dignified. And accurate.

    "Demon Slayer The Cheap And Nasty it is then. Burns going down, burns coming up?"

    She said: Every single time, Charan. And still...you'll bathe me, and you'll drink my love. Until you can't.


    Flasks:
    Spoiler
    Saturated Divine Life Flask of Curing
    -
    Click to expand
  • 50% increased Amount Recovered
  • 33% reduced Recovery rate
  • Immune to Poison during Flask Effect Removes Poison on use
  • Divine Life Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Ample Divine Life Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • +15 to Maximum Charges
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • Superior Eternal Mana Flask
    -
    Click to expand
    Quicksilver Flask of Steadiness
    -
    Click to expand
  • 40% increased Block and Stun Recovery during Flask effect


  • Could you maybe give me some hints, where to go from this point? How can I get my survivability up? Needs to be cheap and not too difficult to obtain. Main reason I try this build is, that the swords were farmable. (2nd one was bonus and dropped unexpectedly quick when I was just out of fun running to hillock with a leftover char from the farming for the first.)
    (On a sidenote, getting endurance charges with the cry doesn't really work out for me. I have the feeling, I die more when I use the time to make the warcry during fights than with just brainless hitting.)

    Thanks!

    Your character profile is hidden so I can't do in-depth assessment to your character.

    Based on the gears that you have linked, I would recommend you to upgrade:

    Your chest piece is good. Continue to use it.

    Replace Magnate belt with Deceiver belt.

    Replace your helm with Starkonja.

    Rings and amulet need replacement too.

    For rings and amulet, look out for stats with:
    "
    - At least 40 life (60+ preferred)
    - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
    - At least 20% Fire damage (optional, can be crafted using Essence of Anger)
    - At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks (optional but highly recommended)
    - Flat physical damage roll (optional but recommended)

    For gloves:
    "
    - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
    - At least 10% Attack Speed
    - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
    - Intelligence (optional. if you need it to equip gears)

    For boots:
    "
    - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0)
    - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped)
    - At least 15% movement


    For flasks, you can consider using this setup that I am using in SSF:
    Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Staunching
    -
    Click to expand
  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Atziri's Promise
    Amethyst Flask
    Click to expand
  • 2% of Chaos Damage Leeched as Life during Flask effect
  • Gain 20% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage during effect
  • Gain 15% of Elemental Damage as Extra Chaos Damage during effect
  • "Death needs not your understanding. It needs only your loyalty."

    - Atziri, Queen of the Vaal

    Experimenter's Quicksilver Flask of Heat
    -
    Click to expand
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • 37% increased Duration
  • Avenger's Granite Flask of Warding
    -
    Click to expand
  • Recharges 3 Charges when you take a Critical Strike
  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
    Click to expand
  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 12% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.



    For 4L setup, I recommend you to follow the defensive gems under gems section for leveling. Enfeeble adds a lot of toughness to the build.

    And in terms of engaging mobs, you can use Cyclone to proc Fortify which gives you 20% incoming damage reduction. Then use Frost blades to clear the mobs.

    Also, if you have not picked up Vaal Pact, do so. It greatly helps in survivability.

    When you are not attacking and the sword is degen-ing your life, hit X key on your keyboard 2 times to remove the degen effect.

    kira1414
    Jan 09, 2018 13:34:38 PM

    Hi,

    I'm following your build and enjoying it so far, thank you !

    Just one question : is it possible to replace blade flurry with reave and still being efficient ? (I already have another char with blade flurry)

    Fastosh
    Jan 09, 2018 14:45:17 PM

    https://pastebin.com/g79zAnDc Optimised PoB even more: added arctic armour, removed cluncky power charges, overhauled tree, ended up with 1 less jewel and more dps 2.1 mil dps 6.2k life lvl 93

    Kek_is_love
    Jan 09, 2018 15:39:51 PM

    "
    Fastosh wrote:
    Hi,

    I'm following your build and enjoying it so far, thank you !

    Just one question : is it possible to replace blade flurry with reave and still being efficient ? (I already have another char with blade flurry)
    As Mathil said, any attack skill, which works with one handed swords is good to go on oni-goroshi.

    Kek_is_love
    Jan 09, 2018 15:42:22 PM

    If I don't want to use Cyclone and already have 2 swords, what gems would work well in the chest?

    XenosisReaper
    Jan 09, 2018 16:17:10 PM

    "
    XenosisReaper wrote:
    If I don't want to use Cyclone and already have 2 swords, what gems would work well in the chest?
    i linked pastebin for PoB without cyclone above
    "
    Kek_is_love wrote:
    https://pastebin.com/g79zAnDc Optimised PoB even more: added arctic armour, removed cluncky power charges, overhauled tree, ended up with 1 less jewel and more dps 2.1 mil dps 6.2k life lvl 93

    Kek_is_love
    Jan 09, 2018 16:38:43 PM

    "
    XenosisReaper wrote:
    If I don't want to use Cyclone and already have 2 swords, what gems would work well in the chest?


    Kek made that setup for me. I also did not wanted to sue Cyclone but i gave it a try. And seriously thats just great combination :) Try it. Just that, give it a chance and see for Yourself.

    de99ial
    Jan 09, 2018 18:56:20 PM

    Rolled my variation of this build as slayer. Got less dps and life, but some quality of life improvements might be worth it. https://pastebin.com/7628nzD2

    Kek_is_love
    Jan 09, 2018 20:39:03 PM

    Did phoenix, laggy frozen ground and 40 phys reduction no other bad mods, still, fighting him with 10-15 fps is bad. Used frost blades since his half hp, coz birds are cancer and tornadoes kill totem instantly

    Fragment of the Phoenix
    -
    Click to expand

    Enter the crucible. The nexus of

    nothingness and equilibrium of eternity.

    Kek_is_love
    Jan 10, 2018 19:19:39 PM
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