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Good discussion here, guys. Had to go test two of the remaining support gems after your feedback.

Updated skillgem benchmarks:

This was concluded after recording 14 consecutive kills of Avarius, Reassembled (65). Raise Spectre was used together with each of the listed support gems on a 2-link. 1 x Tukohama's Vanguard was used, and all gems were Q19+ and L16+.

No supports: 43 and 42 sec
Minion Damage: 32 sec
Elemental Focus: 30 sec
Burning Damage: 28 and 29 sec
Efficacy: 30 sec
Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance: 33 and 32 sec
Chance to Ignite: 33 sec
Swift Affliction: 35 and 35 sec Note: the somewhat poor results might be influenced by less totem uptime, since the less duration increases the deadtime after a totem has expired.
Controlled Destruction: 44, 40, 43 sec

Natt
Aug 30, 2017 18:36:51 PM

What about culling strike? That is a sizable amount of general increased damage.

mattc3303
Aug 30, 2017 18:45:56 PM

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mattc3303 wrote:
What about culling strike? That is a sizable amount of general increased damage.

38% inc. dmg and 10% cast speed looks poorly vs 29 more+10inc (chance ignite). And for big bosses (when cull is needed) u can use it with ball lightning.

Exelice
Aug 30, 2017 20:12:38 PM

Holy shit how did I not notice that change?

Chance to ignite has 29% more damage and 10% increased fire dmg. TIL.

Edit:
Hmmm... "Supports any skill that hits enemies."

Are you sure this still works for wickerman/vanguards? They are not hitting unless this is another obscure hidden tag that GGG does.

mattc3303
Aug 30, 2017 20:22:00 PM

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mattc3303 wrote:

Edit:
Hmmm... "Supports any skill that hits enemies."

Are you sure this still works for wickerman/vanguards? They are not hitting unless this is another obscure hidden tag that GGG does.


It's means cull will be work only with attacks/hits by Molten strike/autoattack ur spectres, but 38% dmg and speed from quality still work.

P.S. Test it 20/20 in uberlab now. with it and without and doesnt see any differences in 1/2 stage (12 and 12) with culling gem (6 linked). Maybe just too small bonus.

Exelice
Aug 30, 2017 20:34:12 PM

I was asking about Chance to Ignite support. It does indicate hits as well. but then it says supports skills with fire damage.

mattc3303
Aug 30, 2017 20:36:36 PM

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mattc3303 wrote:
I was asking about Chance to Ignite support. It does indicate hits as well. but then it says supports skills with fire damage.


Hm, u was right. Chance to ignite doesnt work with normal SR and RF itself. Its just didnt add to link. But its strange cause with Natt's test it give nearly 32% bonus. Maybe its difference mechanic by spectres (cause it can be linked with Chance to ignite). If it work - mb fire pen can work too. Need more tests with killing 1 static boss.

Exelice
Aug 30, 2017 20:50:24 PM

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mattc3303 wrote:
I was asking about Chance to Ignite support. It does indicate hits as well. but then it says supports skills with fire damage.


Yeah, the wording is unclear to me. According to my tests it boosts the damage significantly, so maybe the damage part of the gem still applies to non-hits. I don't know.

Natt
Aug 30, 2017 20:55:53 PM

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Exelice wrote:
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mattc3303 wrote:
I was asking about Chance to Ignite support. It does indicate hits as well. but then it says supports skills with fire damage.


Hm, u was right. Chance to ignite doesnt work with normal SR and RF itself. Its just didnt add to link. But its strange cause with Natt's test it give nearly 32% bonus. Maybe its difference mechanic by spectres (cause it can be linked with Chance to ignite). If it work - mb fire pen can work too. Need more tests with killing 1 static boss.


I'll run another test with Chace to ignite to confirm my result. I'll try fire pen as well lul

Edit: Fire pen not working (as we expected). Chance to ignite same result as before: it buffs damage.

Natt
Aug 30, 2017 20:57:27 PM

Good stuff guys. Seems like there are hidden tags. Even thou it indicates hit the second part of the support shows supported fire skills.

mattc3303
Aug 30, 2017 21:40:02 PM
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