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You have an elemental overload poeplanner. I dont understand why nor how it would work. Am I missing something?

apdjz
Jul 04, 2019 15:34:35 PM

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MadTavish wrote:

Perhaps I'd recommend removing the mention (or at least the recommendation) of Offering to the Serpent from the guide, since its a fractured item and due to Synthesis being not in core, its impossible to obtain in Legion (and presumably follow-up leagues)


EDIT: Also thoughts on Chieftan mini-ascedancy instead of either Champion/Slayer or Raider? Especially on an impresence build for that "20% chance to cover in ash" as well as the 40% increased fire damage?

Agreed. Offering of the Serpent is no longer dropping till GGG decided to re-introduce it back into the game.

20% chance to cover in ash is rather low. Xoph's Blood provide 100% uptime during boss fight.

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apdjz wrote:
You have an elemental overload poeplanner. I dont understand why nor how it would work. Am I missing something?

Elemental Overload gives more damage but you are required to invest in accuracy on your gears. You want at least 900 accuracy on rings and jewels to achieve 90+% chance to hit.

kira1414
Jul 08, 2019 12:31:48 PM

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Skiller41 wrote:

Have you done Uber Elder with this build before? If it's possible to do comfortably, what kind of budget do you think it would take?

Have just done Uber Elder with this Scion build. I'm not very good in dodging stuff - so it was not too comfortable. But anyway it was fun :)

Ngamahu's Flame
Abyssal Axe
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  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 225% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
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  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 47% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 247% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    Sol Cowl
    Royal Burgonet
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  • +48 to Strength
  • +36 to Armour
  • 38% increased Armour
  • +109 to maximum Life
  • +44% to Cold Resistance
  • +34% to Lightning Resistance
  • Gale Fist
    Crusader Gloves
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  • Curse Enemies with Level 12 Elemental Weakness on Hit
  • Adds 3 to 7 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +26 to Armour
  • +95 to maximum Life
  • +35% to Fire Resistance
  • +23% to Cold Resistance
  • Windshriek
    Reinforced Greaves
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  • 243% increased Armour
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • 19% increased Elemental Damage
  • You can apply an additional Curse
  • 60% increased Area of Effect of Curse Skills
  • An open mouth, a blinding shriek,

    Your mind goes dark, your body weak.

    Pandemonium Twine
    Heavy Belt
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  • +31 to Strength
  • +286 to Armour
  • +91 to maximum Life
  • +42% to Fire Resistance
  • +11% to Cold Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • 30% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Dread Turn
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +16% to Fire and Cold Resistances
  • +42 to Strength
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +13% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +30% to Cold Resistance
  • 22% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Blood Hold
    Iron Ring
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  • Adds 1 to 4 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • Regenerate 10 Life per second
  • +74 to maximum Mana
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • +46% to Lightning Resistance
  • -8 to Total Mana Cost of Skills
  • +54 to maximum Life
  • Xoph's Blood
    Amber Amulet
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  • +30 to Strength
  • 10% increased maximum Life
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • 10% increased Strength
  • Damage Penetrates 10% Fire Resistance
  • Cover Enemies in Ash when they Hit you
  • Avatar of Fire
  • We are his blood.

    Through us he carries his burning message.

    Experimenter's Quicksilver Flask of Warding
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  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • 35% increased Duration
  • Taste of Hate
    Sapphire Flask
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  • 20% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Flask effect
  • Gain 18% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Flask effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during Flask effect
  • A sip will freeze your lips,

    A swig will chill your heart,

    A glass will still your soul.

    Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Heat
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  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Staunching
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  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Lion's Roar
    Granite Flask
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  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • Knocks Back Enemies in an Area when you use a Flask
  • 75% chance to cause Enemies to Flee on use
  • 24% more Melee Physical Damage during effect
  • A sprinkle of hunger, a spoonful of menace

    and three generous cups of Might.

    Glyph Eye
    Crimson Jewel
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  • 7% increased Attack Speed with Axes
  • 7% increased maximum Life
  • 6% increased Ignite Duration on Enemies
  • 3% chance to Ignite
  • Spirit Creed
    Crimson Jewel
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  • 7% increased Attack Speed with Axes
  • 7% increased maximum Life
  • 12% increased Projectile Damage
  • Pandemonium Cut
    Viridian Jewel
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  • 11% increased Damage over Time
  • 7% increased Attack Speed with Axes
  • 7% increased maximum Life
  • Watcher's Eye
    Prismatic Jewel
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  • 4% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 6% increased maximum Life
  • 5% increased maximum Mana
  • Consecrated Ground you create while affected by Zealotry causes enemies to take 8% increased Damage
  • Gain 20% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage while affected by Anger
  • One by one, they stood their ground against a creature

    they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,

    and one by one, they became a part of it.



    Used Concentrated Effect instead of Rage support for boss fight.

    Kaom's Roots were also fine but missed Enfeeble and Immortal Call.

    Shaggyhead
    Jul 12, 2019 19:25:26 PM

    Would a crit version of the build from the slayer link work?
    I know slayer has 8% crit ascendancy passive now but even without it crit seems to give slightly more damage in theory, but I don't know if it's any good in practice

    PinkTruth
    Jul 15, 2019 09:45:41 AM

    Gloves enchantment on Spike Gloves will lose the melee damage?why?

    lis151515
    Jul 26, 2019 07:45:32 AM

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    PinkTruth wrote:
    Would a crit version of the build from the slayer link work?
    I know slayer has 8% crit ascendancy passive now but even without it crit seems to give slightly more damage in theory, but I don't know if it's any good in practice

    You can definitely tweak the skill tree. Crit in general will always provide the highest damage but it usually come with the expense of lower survivability.

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    lis151515 wrote:
    Gloves enchantment on Spike Gloves will lose the melee damage?why?

    GGG have made changes to the enchantment and you no longer lose the implicit on Spike Gloves. I will update the guide to have this part removed.

    kira1414
    Jul 30, 2019 17:02:04 PM

    this build works with everything? cause i see you have multiple skill links and i am kinda confused.

    eko123456
    Sep 11, 2019 11:32:42 AM

    https://pastebin.com/tKYcMkNB here is your pastebin link with the 3.8 updated trees + the EO versions included, didnt change anything else. :) Will probably try this build now. Still looking at the other versions but I think this will be it. So thank you very much for this build!

    Edit:
    I noticed Franzy Charges were not checked in configuration, fixed too.

    Just tell me and I will edit the link if you want to do it yourself and not use it.

    Edit2:
    If the total dps calculation provided here: https://respoe.xyz/forum/view-thread/2526420 (Total DPS = (Cyclone Total DPS) + [ (Cyclone Attack Rate * 0.2) * (Default number of proj. + Dying Sun proj. + Greater Multiple Gem) * Molten Burst Avg Damage] is correct you can improve your DPS (10k on lvl 95 Xoph and 13k on lvl 95 Xoph with EO) by swapping Combustion Support from the Axe with your Chest's Elemental Focus Support.

    Swapping the 21/20 Fire Penetration Support with a 20/20 Added Fire Damage Support improves your total DPS by 22k (95Xoph) and 32k (95XophEO).

    Since both are the same colors I don't see the reason why not. :)
    I'm pretty new to the game if there is a synergy I didn't see I'm sorry, just running numbers is fun thats what I noticed.

    DragooNick
    Sep 26, 2019 10:23:48 AM

    I must be missing something here, sorry if it's been said before.
    You're talking in the guide about overleech, however if you take slayer you do not get overleech you get "Life leech effects are not removed at Full Life".
    This is different right?
    Why would you ever pick this, it seems useless.
    Same with the soul Tether belt, it also says "Life leech effects are not removed at Full Life" instead of overleech.
    Or maybe I can't "see" the overleech yet because I have too low dps? Is it an icon in the top left?

    PrinceOfSaiyans
    Oct 06, 2019 06:08:12 AM

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    DragooNick wrote:
    https://pastebin.com/tKYcMkNB here is your pastebin link with the 3.8 updated trees + the EO versions included, didnt change anything else. :) Will probably try this build now. Still looking at the other versions but I think this will be it. So thank you very much for this build!

    Edit:
    I noticed Franzy Charges were not checked in configuration, fixed too.

    Just tell me and I will edit the link if you want to do it yourself and not use it.

    Edit2:
    If the total dps calculation provided here: https://respoe.xyz/forum/view-thread/2526420 (Total DPS = (Cyclone Total DPS) + [ (Cyclone Attack Rate * 0.2) * (Default number of proj. + Dying Sun proj. + Greater Multiple Gem) * Molten Burst Avg Damage] is correct you can improve your DPS (10k on lvl 95 Xoph and 13k on lvl 95 Xoph with EO) by swapping Combustion Support from the Axe with your Chest's Elemental Focus Support.

    Swapping the 21/20 Fire Penetration Support with a 20/20 Added Fire Damage Support improves your total DPS by 22k (95Xoph) and 32k (95XophEO).

    Since both are the same colors I don't see the reason why not. :)
    I'm pretty new to the game if there is a synergy I didn't see I'm sorry, just running numbers is fun thats what I noticed.

    Thanks for the POB pastebin. I will have it updated into the guide. :D

    For swapping of Combustion with EleFocus from axe to chest, I would prefer not to because when you have min/max your gears, Cyclone will do way more damage than Molten Burst so having EleFocus on Cyclone will result in more damage output.

    And with Rage + Berserk introduction to the game, I prefer to use the Mapping setup cos when you have 50 stacks of rage, Berserk can instant phase bosses.

    As for FirePen with Added Fire, yes, you can do that swap. That is fine. :)

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    I must be missing something here, sorry if it's been said before.
    You're talking in the guide about overleech, however if you take slayer you do not get overleech you get "Life leech effects are not removed at Full Life".
    This is different right?
    Why would you ever pick this, it seems useless.
    Same with the soul Tether belt, it also says "Life leech effects are not removed at Full Life" instead of overleech.
    Or maybe I can't "see" the overleech yet because I have too low dps? Is it an icon in the top left?

    Overleech means life leech is not removed at full life, which is what Slayer, Soul Tether and Offering of the Serpent provides.

    It is very useful because it greatly improves your survivability.

    It allows you to heal to full life when you take a big hit and had to run around to stay alive without using a life flask.

    And yes, leech effect is greatly affected by how much damage you deal. Which is why life gain on hit is more useful when you have low damage and life leech is more useful when you have more damage.

    kira1414
    Oct 06, 2019 10:30:03 AM
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