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So Slayer vs Scion i get that scion is going to have the higher dps but which one is going to be able to more likely stay alive against bosses and strong rares?

everblight090909
Sep 07, 2017 07:37:00 AM

Ngamahu's Flame
Abyssal Axe
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  • Culling Strike
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 224% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer



    just landed this how much of a dps loss is it compared to if it had conc effect? my vorici is no where near lvl 8 T_T

    Twoez702
    Sep 07, 2017 08:47:09 AM

    "
    So Slayer vs Scion i get that scion is going to have the higher dps but which one is going to be able to more likely stay alive against bosses and strong rares?

    I would say both can survive well. Just different play style really. When you are in a situation that both Slayer and Scion will need to run away to stay alive, Slayer has the upper hand because of Endless Hunger. Scion will need to hit healing pot instead.

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    "
    Twoez702 wrote:
    Ngamahu's Flame
    Abyssal Axe
    Click to expand
  • Culling Strike
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 224% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer



    just landed this how much of a dps loss is it compared to if it had conc effect? my vorici is no where near lvl 8 T_T

    OMG! Grats on that corruption!

    Removing Concentrated gem will result in around 40% damage loss.

    However, you can replace it with Damage on Full Life gem. This way you will only lose 1% damage (assuming you are always on full life).

    And in the meantime, you can do Vorici rota to get him to level 8.

    kira1414
    Sep 07, 2017 09:43:10 AM

    "
    kira1414 wrote:
    "
    So Slayer vs Scion i get that scion is going to have the higher dps but which one is going to be able to more likely stay alive against bosses and strong rares?

    I would say both can survive well. Just different play style really. When you are in a situation that both Slayer and Scion will need to run away to stay alive, Slayer has the upper hand because of Endless Hunger. Scion will need to hit healing pot instead.

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    Twoez702 wrote:
    Ngamahu's Flame
    Abyssal Axe
    Click to expand
  • Culling Strike
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 224% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer



    just landed this how much of a dps loss is it compared to if it had conc effect? my vorici is no where near lvl 8 T_T

    OMG! Grats on that corruption!

    Removing Concentrated gem will result in around 40% damage loss.

    However, you can replace it with Damage on Full Life gem. This way you will only lose 1% damage (assuming you are always on full life).

    And in the meantime, you can do Vorici rota to get him to level 8.


    thanks for the reply! yeah i put a dmg on full life gem in it in the meantime, good to know its not that big of a dps loss as long as im full life.

    so once my vorici reaches 8 itll take chroms + the same amount of vaal orbs to change the colors correct?

    Twoez702
    Sep 07, 2017 09:50:07 AM

    "
    Twoez702 wrote:

    thanks for the reply! yeah i put a dmg on full life gem in it in the meantime, good to know its not that big of a dps loss as long as im full life.

    so once my vorici reaches 8 itll take chroms + the same amount of vaal orbs to change the colors correct?

    Yes. That is correct. :)

    kira1414
    Sep 07, 2017 10:06:30 AM

    with the nerf to ignite would it be better to go pure dmg gem setup rather than dot setup?

    everblight090909
    Sep 07, 2017 22:26:40 PM

    1)Is the "40% increased Herald of Ash Damage" worse then other lab enchants?

    Spoiler
    Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +56 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 200% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +19% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.


    2)What should I use instead of "Culling Strike" (Totem) if I have it on Ngamahu?

    PazitiF
    Sep 08, 2017 00:04:43 AM

    "
    with the nerf to ignite would it be better to go pure dmg gem setup rather than dot setup?

    I would probably go for ignite on axe and damage on chest.

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    PazitiF wrote:
    1)Is the "40% increased Herald of Ash Damage" worse then other lab enchants?
    Spoiler
    Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +56 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 200% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +19% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.


    2)What should I use instead of "Culling Strike" (Totem) if I have it on Ngamahu?

    Vs Shaper, Cyclone damage / attack speed gives the most damage, follow by Flammability and Herald is last.

    For mapping, Flammability gives the most damage, follow by Cyclone and Herald is last.

    You can replace Culling gem with Faster Attack.

    kira1414
    Sep 08, 2017 02:55:21 AM

    so i got pretty lucky today and scored a tukohama's off of an ancient orb, should xoph be my first big purchase?

    Ngamahu's Flame
    Abyssal Axe
    Click to expand
  • Culling Strike
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 224% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer

    Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +64 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 180% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +25% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
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  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 211% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    Foe Touch
    Gripped Gloves
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  • 18% increased Projectile Attack Damage
  • Adds 7 to 17 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • 7% increased Attack Speed
  • 76% increased Evasion Rating
  • +53 to maximum Life
  • +32% to Fire Resistance
  • +33% to Lightning Resistance
  • Mind Tread
    Vaal Greaves
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  • 32% reduced Attribute Requirements
  • 10% increased Armour
  • +43 to maximum Life
  • +34% to Fire Resistance
  • +33% to Cold Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • 6% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Le Heup of All
    Iron Ring
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  • Adds 1 to 4 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +10 to all Attributes
  • 26% increased Damage
  • 12% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +26% to all Elemental Resistances
  • Existence is infinite

    A weave of the living and dead

    Beyond the understanding

    Of the many mortal threads

    Death Loop
    Moonstone Ring
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  • +15 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +18 to Dexterity
  • Adds 6 to 11 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +63 to maximum Life
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +45% to Lightning Resistance
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Carnage Heart
    Onyx Amulet
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  • +13 to all Attributes
  • +39 to all Attributes
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 1.41% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • 50% increased total Recovery per second from Life Leech
  • 40% increased Damage while Leeching
  • Extra gore
  • Forged from the blood of countless wars,

    its thirst has only begun.

    Belt of the Deceiver
    Heavy Belt
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  • +26 to Strength
  • 25% increased Global Physical Damage
  • You take 30% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes
  • +33 to maximum Life
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • Nearby Enemies are Intimidated
  • In battle, virtue matters not.

    Only victory.

    Twoez702
    Sep 08, 2017 05:36:47 AM

    Hey im kinda new to scion and unsure what to do with uber lab ascendancy points?
    Did merc lab earlier today and i have champion and raider now, what do i put points in when i complete uber? Tnx

    Zieralol
    Sep 08, 2017 21:00:33 PM
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