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Is it possible to make good old GC sabo in 3.8?

ToshikEz
Sep 14, 2019 12:30:36 PM

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havenrl wrote:
I'm kinda following this build.
I am wondering about the end game helm.

Would Starkonja's or Rat's Nest be viable with the crit damage for:
Icicle 30% Crit Multi or Icicle 40% Increased Damage enchant
OR
Pyroclast 40% Increased Damage.


Which is the best enchant / mine to use?

I use Icicle for aoe clear, and Pyro for bosses and tough rares.





Icicle crit multi is great. 40% inc damage is alright.

Pyroclast, you want: adds 2 projectiles. There's like 1 or 2 ex on poe.trade atm. Worth getting an ES based or Hybrid EVA/ES based then chaos spam some until you get high ES, life, resist you're missing if you're going Hybrid.

ShadowGenisys
Sep 14, 2019 17:43:08 PM

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ToshikEz wrote:
Is it possible to make good old GC sabo in 3.8?


Yeah, it still shreds.

New mines, most ppl went with the new skills. GC is still viable, just a bit annoying as we don't control overlapping anymore since we throw the mines but it's still perfectly fine.

ShadowGenisys
Sep 14, 2019 17:44:30 PM

Just wanted to give an update on my progression. I've been lazy with mapping but I've done some red maps and red elder in a 2 man team, shredded the dude like a hotknife through butter with Pyroclast. It's pretty fkn strong.

Though, for icicle, I did change it to Swift Assemble as I use it for general clear and it's smoother than with minefield. For Pyroclast I'm still using minefield for the extra maximum mines, 23 instead of 19 due to the Aura and I used it to burst down stuff with setup time anyway like Shaper.

Edit: I havn't tested a Yoke Of Suffering yet but I think it'd still add some ginormous DPS if you're lacking in that department.

Gear Wise, I'm at 5.1k hp and 3.2k ES.

Tremor Rod
Military Staff
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  • +18% Chance to Block Attack Damage while wielding a Staff
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Spell Gems
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 10 Blastchain Mine
  • 40% increased Spell Damage
  • 17% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold
  • Mines can be Detonated an additional time
  • The best way to gain the element of surprise,

    is to let your enemy learn your plans,

    and execute them - twice.

    Behemoth Guardian
    Solaris Circlet
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  • 32% reduced Attribute Requirements
  • 77% increased Energy Shield
  • +72 to maximum Life
  • +31% to Cold Resistance
  • +14% to Lightning Resistance
  • +43 to maximum Energy Shield
  • Corpse Turn
    Diamond Ring
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  • 27% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • Adds 8 to 15 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +47 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +59 to maximum Life
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Cold Resistance
  • +28% to Lightning Resistance
  • Shroud of the Lightless
    Carnal Armour
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  • +22 to maximum Mana
  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Elemental Penetration
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 20 Shade Form when you Use a Socketed Skill
  • 177% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  • 7% increased maximum Life
  • 14% increased maximum Mana
  • 1% increased Maximum Life per Abyss Jewel affecting you
  • 1% increased Maximum Mana per Abyss Jewel affecting you
  • Look to the darkness for nourishment and you will never go hungry.

    Grim Hold
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +16% to Fire and Cold Resistances
  • Adds 3 to 6 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +135 to Accuracy Rating
  • +34 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +71 to maximum Life
  • +16% to Cold Resistance
  • +43% to Lightning Resistance
  • Spirit Idol
    Turquoise Amulet
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  • +19 to Dexterity and Intelligence
  • 22% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • +26% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • +20 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +86 to maximum Life
  • 8% increased Mine Throwing Speed
  • Havoc Nails
    Sorcerer Gloves
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  • Adds 1 to 2 Cold Damage to Attacks
  • +88 to Accuracy Rating
  • +11 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +112 to maximum Life
  • +21% to Cold Resistance
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • Empyrean Lash
    Stygian Vise
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  • Has 1 Abyssal Socket
  • +35 to Strength
  • +49 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +85 to maximum Life
  • +45 to maximum Mana
  • +31% to Fire Resistance
  • Invasion Slippers
    Sorcerer Boots
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  • +30 to Intelligence
  • +82 to maximum Life
  • +23% to Lightning Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +32 to maximum Energy Shield
  • Experimenter's Diamond Flask of Warding
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  • Immune to Curses during Flask effect Removes Curses on use
  • 30% increased Duration
  • Experimenter's Sulphur Flask of Heat
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  • Creates Consecrated Ground on Use
  • Immunity to Freeze and Chill during Flask effect Removes Freeze and Chill on use
  • 34% increased Duration
  • Enduring Eternal Mana Flask of Draining
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  • 0.4% of Spell Damage Leeched as Energy Shield during Flask effect
  • 25% reduced Duration
  • Flask Effect is not removed at Full Mana
  • Bubbling Divine Life Flask of Staunching
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  • 50% reduced Amount Recovered
  • 135% increased Recovery rate
  • 50% of Recovery applied Instantly
  • Immunity to Bleeding during Flask effect Removes Bleeding on use
  • Experimenter's Quicksilver Flask of Fending
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  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • 37% increased Duration


  • ShadowGenisys
    Sep 14, 2019 17:48:32 PM

    Why does no one seem to use high impact mine support? Every build I see is using blastchain instead, is it just that much stronger? Through my own testing (With GC build) as a QOL I prefer to have all the mines come out at once it clears quicker, the blastchain they seems to come out in sequence and feels slower to me even if the 5% more per mine is theoretically better on dps.

    Hudnek
    Sep 15, 2019 12:53:35 PM

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    Hudnek wrote:
    Why does no one seem to use high impact mine support? Every build I see is using blastchain instead, is it just that much stronger? Through my own testing (With GC build) as a QOL I prefer to have all the mines come out at once it clears quicker, the blastchain they seems to come out in sequence and feels slower to me even if the 5% more per mine is theoretically better on dps.


    Most of us aren't using blastchain mines. Tremor rods provides blastchain but doesn't trigger or get used if you use a "True Mine" skills such as icicle mines and pyroclast mines. There's better gems out there that gives better overall benefits, e.g. with 23 pyroclasts mines out at a time and demolition specialist Ascendency, Shaper/Guardians pretty much instantly gets popped, with 23 mines and high impact mines + ascendency it doesn't really makes much of a difference as it'd still 1 shot those guys. The difference is when it comes to killing random hard encounters where 5 normal mines with say conc effect instead of high impact would end up doing more damage rather than a sequential 25% more at the 5th mine and 25% chance to deal double damage.

    That's probably why no one uses it.

    ShadowGenisys
    Sep 16, 2019 04:46:21 AM

    Selling my LL Miner build. Reached 11k es on it and 240k avg hit in pob.
    IGN:Mepfis

    Tempest Gnarl
    Prophecy Wand
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  • 40% increased Spell Damage
  • Gain 20% of Elemental Damage as Extra Chaos Damage
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 48% increased Spell Damage
  • Adds 31 to 55 Cold Damage to Spells
  • +28% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
  • 13% increased Mine Throwing Speed
  • Gain 4% of Non-Chaos Damage as extra Chaos Damage
  • Hate Shelter
    Hubris Circlet
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  • +54 to Intelligence
  • +22 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 100% increased Energy Shield
  • +21 to maximum Mana
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • +45 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 11% increased Mine Throwing Speed
  • Presence of Chayula
    Onyx Amulet
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  • +16 to all Attributes
  • 30% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +60% to Chaos Resistance
  • Cannot be Stunned
  • 20% of Maximum Life Converted to Energy Shield
  • The dreamer stirs, the world trembles.

    Blight Coil
    Two-Stone Ring
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  • +16% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • +41 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +43% to Fire Resistance
  • +48% to Cold Resistance
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • 20% increased Damage
  • 22% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • Chimeric Spell
    Titanium Spirit Shield
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  • +75 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 134% increased Energy Shield
  • 13% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • +20% to Quality
  • +30 to Dexterity
  • Shavronne's Wrappings
    Occultist's Vestment
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  • 10% increased Spell Damage
  • 132% increased Energy Shield
  • 10% faster start of Energy Shield Recharge
  • +40% to Lightning Resistance
  • Reflects 1 to 250 Lightning Damage to Melee Attackers
  • Chaos Damage does not bypass Energy Shield
  • Shavronne's apparel became ever more extravagant

    as her body and soul became ever more corrupted.

    Mark of the Shaper
    Opal Ring
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  • 25% increased Elemental Damage
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 20 Summon Volatile Anomaly on Kill
  • Adds 17 to 56 Lightning Damage to Spells
  • 10% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 7% increased maximum Life
  • 80% increased Spell Damage if your other Ring is an Elder Item
  • Cannot be Stunned by Spells if your other Ring is a Shaper Item
  • Let madness take control.

    Horror Mitts
    Fingerless Silk Gloves
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  • 16% increased Spell Damage
  • 99% increased Energy Shield
  • +47% to Lightning Resistance
  • Can have multiple Crafted Modifiers
  • +34 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 39% increased Energy Shield
  • +27 to maximum Life
  • +34% to Fire Resistance
  • Chimeric Road
    Sorcerer Boots
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  • +49 to Intelligence
  • 90% increased Energy Shield
  • +42% to Cold Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +34 to maximum Energy Shield
  • Oblivion Vessel
    Cobalt Jewel
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  • 12% increased Spell Damage
  • 14% increased Cold Damage
  • 8% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • +12% to Fire and Lightning Resistances
  • Bramble Tether
    Crystal Belt
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  • +80 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +43 to maximum Energy Shield
  • 10% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 20% increased Energy Shield Recovery rate
  • 27% increased Energy Shield from Body Armour
  • +35% to Cold Resistance
  • Energy From Within
    Cobalt Jewel
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  • 6% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • Increases and Reductions to Life in Radius are Transformed to apply to Energy Shield
  • The Azmeri ascetics learnt the power

    of going without the body's ordinary cravings.

    Mepfis
    Sep 16, 2019 22:47:24 PM

    it's viable to use dying sun instead critical flask? i will do more damage?

    CrasherPM
    Sep 19, 2019 02:31:14 AM

    hi, what pantheon for uelder and for mapping?

    Celmaiibun
    Sep 19, 2019 13:10:26 PM

    What is the best support gem for Icicle and Pyro mine guys?? Windz and many players at poe.ninja/build has different style

    anhtuan3030
    Sep 19, 2019 16:09:51 PM
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