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Any ideas for more deeps? I'm still able to ignite now! Honestly dont feel the difference in aoe too much using concentrated effect. Level 23 cyclone feels nice!

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Ngamahu's Flame
Abyssal Axe
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  • +1 to Weapon range
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 226% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 47% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 250% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +62 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 157% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +24% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.

    Golem Hand
    Titan Gauntlets
    Click to expand
  • Adds 2 to 5 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • +80 to maximum Life
  • +34% to Cold Resistance
  • +27% to Lightning Resistance
  • Loath Spark
    Titan Greaves
    Click to expand
  • +45 to Strength
  • 101% increased Armour
  • +88 to maximum Life
  • +28% to Cold Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +30 to Intelligence
  • Loath Strap
    Vanguard Belt
    Click to expand
  • +317 to Armour and Evasion Rating
  • +37 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +41% to Fire Resistance
  • +42% to Cold Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • 21% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Rage Knot
    Opal Ring
    Click to expand
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage
  • +15 to Intelligence
  • 23% increased Fire Damage
  • +58 to maximum Life
  • +6 Mana gained on Kill
  • 42% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Adds 12 to 23 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Chimeric Twirl
    Steel Ring
    Click to expand
  • Adds 4 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +50 to Strength
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +62 to maximum Mana
  • +38% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • Adds 13 to 24 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Xoph's Blood
    Amber Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +28 to Strength
  • 10% increased maximum Life
  • +32% to Fire Resistance
  • 10% increased Strength
  • Damage Penetrates 10% Fire Resistance
  • Cover Enemies in Ash when they Hit you
  • Avatar of Fire
  • We are his blood.

    Through us he carries his burning message.

    The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
    Click to expand
  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 20% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.

    Dying Sun
    Ruby Flask
    Click to expand
  • 2% reduced Charges used
  • Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles during Flask Effect
  • 30% increased Area of Effect during Flask Effect
  • All things must die.

    Whether you burn out or explode is up to you.

    Taste of Hate
    Sapphire Flask
    Click to expand
  • 20% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Flask effect
  • Gain 25% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Flask effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during Flask effect
  • A sip will freeze your lips,

    A swig will chill your heart,

    A glass will still your soul.

    Lion's Roar
    Granite Flask
    Click to expand
  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • Knocks Back Enemies in an Area when you use a Flask
  • 75% chance to cause Enemies to Flee on use
  • 33% more Melee Physical Damage during effect
  • A sprinkle of hunger, a spoonful of menace

    and three generous cups of Might.

    Perpetual Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline
    -
    Click to expand
  • 30% increased Charge Recovery
  • 30% increased Movement Speed during Flask effect


  • Trying for +2 axe and +1 gems or +1 max res chest..

    Love this build!

    Lunartuna
    May 06, 2017 01:14:16 AM

    "
    eviL_Bison wrote:

    pls stahp using all of the RNG luck. I want some too :D

    Btw at the moment I am considering to list this build in the build list as a featured build. Its a solid league starter and does scale very well with further investment.

    Any words to advertise this build? :D

    Oh wow. Thank you for considering to list the build as a featured build. For advertising words, reiterating what you said:

    "
    A very cheap league starter build that can do end-game content with further investment to the gears.

    You can start Uber Lab farming with just a 5L chest and Ngamahu's Flame!

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    Troomper wrote:
    I just start playing this game after a lot of time, and i am a noob xD.

    This build it's preatty OP i just bought the Ngamahu's Flame, and with a 5L chest i am ripping everyone (i did the first 3 labs at 62, without breaking a sweat). But i am a little lost, and don't have much currency (so i don't have the Xoph).


    This is my shitty gear.
    Spoiler
    Ngamahu's Flame
    Abyssal Axe
    Click to expand
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 208% increased Physical Damage
  • 9% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer

    Behemoth Cloak
    Crusader Plate
    Click to expand
  • +96 to maximum Life
  • +37% to Fire Resistance
  • +10% to Cold Resistance
  • 20% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • 66% increased Armour
  • Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +52 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 198% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +19% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.

    Death Spark
    Goliath Greaves
    Click to expand
  • +35 to maximum Life
  • +30% to Fire Resistance
  • +27% to Lightning Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • Grim Knuckle
    Antique Gauntlets
    Click to expand
  • +73 to maximum Life
  • +41% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • +9 Life gained on Kill
  • 60% increased Armour
  • Beast Grip
    Topaz Ring
    Click to expand
  • +25% to Lightning Resistance
  • +34 to Intelligence
  • +112 to Evasion Rating
  • +9 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +20% to Lightning Resistance
  • Dire Knot
    Diamond Ring
    Click to expand
  • 28% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
  • 20% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +14% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +29% to Cold Resistance
  • 0.33% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • Sol Braid
    Onyx Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +14 to all Attributes
  • Adds 10 to 19 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +33 to maximum Life
  • +45% to Cold Resistance
  • +32% to Lightning Resistance
  • Nemesis Twine
    Studded Belt
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  • 21% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • +7 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +82 to maximum Life
  • +39% to Fire Resistance
  • +24% to Cold Resistance
  • 15% increased Stun Duration on Enemies


  • I have some currency but not that much, should i try to buy a Carcass Jack or a Cospri's Will ?

    Other thing, there's like 10 thousand skill trees, what should i use untill i get my Xoph's (in like 10 years of farming) ?

    I would suggest you to get Xoph's Blood next. It is priced at 140 chaos now. If you do vendor recipes that give you 2 chaos, you can obtain 140 chaos within 2 days of farming dried lake. If you push for it, you can get it in 1 day. Start farming now and you will have Xoph's Blood before coming Monday. ;)

    For chest piece, besides Carcass and Cospri, you can seriously consider Bronn's Lithe. It is perfect fit for the build.

    On skill trees, you can pick tank version as it provide the most survivability. You can switch to ignite based trees when you have better gears and want to push for more damage.

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    Lunartuna wrote:
    Any ideas for more deeps? I'm still able to ignite now! Honestly dont feel the difference in aoe too much using concentrated effect. Level 23 cyclone feels nice!

    Spoiler


    Spoiler
    Ngamahu's Flame
    Abyssal Axe
    Click to expand
  • +1 to Weapon range
  • 20% chance to Trigger Level 16 Molten Burst on Melee Hit
  • 226% increased Physical Damage
  • 12% increased Attack Speed
  • 50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
  • Damage Penetrates 20% Fire Resistance
  • "The Karui savages claim the weapon was forged by their fire god.

    I'm rather inclined to believe them."

    - Fairgraves, Renowned Explorer

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 47% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 250% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    Devoto's Devotion
    Nightmare Bascinet
    Click to expand
  • +62 to Dexterity
  • 10% reduced Global Physical Damage
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • 157% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +24% to Chaos Resistance
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • Mercury Footprints
  • Swift as thought are the actions of Man

    when borne on wings of divine providence.

    Golem Hand
    Titan Gauntlets
    Click to expand
  • Adds 2 to 5 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 16% increased Attack Speed
  • +80 to maximum Life
  • +34% to Cold Resistance
  • +27% to Lightning Resistance
  • Loath Spark
    Titan Greaves
    Click to expand
  • +45 to Strength
  • 101% increased Armour
  • +88 to maximum Life
  • +28% to Cold Resistance
  • 30% increased Movement Speed
  • +30 to Intelligence
  • Loath Strap
    Vanguard Belt
    Click to expand
  • +317 to Armour and Evasion Rating
  • +37 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +41% to Fire Resistance
  • +42% to Cold Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • 21% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Rage Knot
    Opal Ring
    Click to expand
  • 25% increased Elemental Damage
  • +15 to Intelligence
  • 23% increased Fire Damage
  • +58 to maximum Life
  • +6 Mana gained on Kill
  • 42% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Adds 12 to 23 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Chimeric Twirl
    Steel Ring
    Click to expand
  • Adds 4 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +50 to Strength
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +62 to maximum Mana
  • +38% to Fire Resistance
  • +44% to Lightning Resistance
  • Adds 13 to 24 Fire Damage to Attacks
  • Xoph's Blood
    Amber Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +28 to Strength
  • 10% increased maximum Life
  • +32% to Fire Resistance
  • 10% increased Strength
  • Damage Penetrates 10% Fire Resistance
  • Cover Enemies in Ash when they Hit you
  • Avatar of Fire
  • We are his blood.

    Through us he carries his burning message.

    The Wise Oak
    Bismuth Flask
    Click to expand
  • During Flask Effect, 10% reduced Damage taken of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is lowest
  • During Flask Effect, Damage Penetrates 20% Resistance of each Element for which your Uncapped Elemental Resistance is highest
  • The summer sun dries the soil and burns the leaves.

    The autumn rain extinguishes the flames.

    The spring bloom shades the wet earth.

    Nature is an eternal tug of war.

    Dying Sun
    Ruby Flask
    Click to expand
  • 2% reduced Charges used
  • Skills fire 2 additional Projectiles during Flask Effect
  • 30% increased Area of Effect during Flask Effect
  • All things must die.

    Whether you burn out or explode is up to you.

    Taste of Hate
    Sapphire Flask
    Click to expand
  • 20% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Flask effect
  • Gain 25% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Flask effect
  • 30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during Flask effect
  • A sip will freeze your lips,

    A swig will chill your heart,

    A glass will still your soul.

    Lion's Roar
    Granite Flask
    Click to expand
  • Adds Knockback to Melee Attacks during Flask effect
  • Knocks Back Enemies in an Area when you use a Flask
  • 75% chance to cause Enemies to Flee on use
  • 33% more Melee Physical Damage during effect
  • A sprinkle of hunger, a spoonful of menace

    and three generous cups of Might.

    Perpetual Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline
    -
    Click to expand
  • 30% increased Charge Recovery
  • 30% increased Movement Speed during Flask effect


  • Trying for +2 axe and +1 gems or +1 max res chest..

    Love this build!

    Very impressive damage you have over there. I see that you have gotten the boots enchant now. I will showcase your gears and DPS in the guide, along with your gears.

    Besides +1 gems, having more strength will also push your damage up. Once you min/max those, having mirror tier rings will probably be the last straw.

    And yes, like you said, with 2.6 change to AOE, you won't feel much difference switching from Increased Area gem to Concentrated (unless you roll a map with reduced area of effect).

    kira1414
    May 06, 2017 03:28:53 AM

    "
    kira1414 wrote:
    I will showcase your gears and DPS in the guide


    Oooh! I'm Honored! Thank you!



    Lunartuna
    May 06, 2017 04:34:08 AM

    Hi.
    First i'd like to say i love this build and i have been playing it since start of legacy, really fun and simple.

    I recently switched to atziri's acuity version and i feel confused. I lost ~200hp and i don't feel doing more damage at all. Maybe i'm missing something but i only have 6% chance to crit and i think it is too low to have elemental overload constantly up. I still don't have "increased critical strikes" in my 6L but then when i think about it its basically switching elemental focus which gives 59% elemental damage for 40% from elemental overload.

    My buffed damage now (in hideout, without flasks) is 55k, before atziri's i had 73. I'm not saying that this version of the build is bad, maybe i'm just missing something very important and i would like someone who plays it to explain.

    My character name is Frixxerr.

    Thank you for your time.

    FriX
    May 06, 2017 08:21:25 AM

    "
    Lunartuna wrote:


    Oooh! I'm Honored! Thank you!

    It is my pleasure to include it. If you have new updates, do post the screenshot and gears and I will update the guide. :)

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    FriX wrote:
    Hi.
    First i'd like to say i love this build and i have been playing it since start of legacy, really fun and simple.

    I recently switched to atziri's acuity version and i feel confused. I lost ~200hp and i don't feel doing more damage at all. Maybe i'm missing something but i only have 6% chance to crit and i think it is too low to have elemental overload constantly up. I still don't have "increased critical strikes" in my 6L but then when i think about it its basically switching elemental focus which gives 59% elemental damage for 40% from elemental overload.

    My buffed damage now (in hideout, without flasks) is 55k, before atziri's i had 73. I'm not saying that this version of the build is bad, maybe i'm just missing something very important and i would like someone who plays it to explain.

    My character name is Frixxerr.

    Thank you for your time.

    A drop in damage is normal because you are no longer having 100% chance to hit (from losing resolute technique). You will need to aim for 90% chance to hit with EO skill tree. You will see a damage increase when EO is active in your buff bar.

    Consider getting Slaughter and Versatility from the skill tree. These 2 nodes will help push your chance to hit higher.

    Increased Critical Strike gem is mandatory as it will push your chance to crit over 15% (the higher the better). This will ensure EO is up most of the time.

    For gems setup, you can consider replacing Melee Physical damage with Accuracy or Faster Attack (more chance to proc EO) gem.

    kira1414
    May 06, 2017 09:35:20 AM

    "
    kira1414 wrote:
    "
    Lunartuna wrote:


    Oooh! I'm Honored! Thank you!

    It is my pleasure to include it. If you have new updates, do post the screenshot and gears and I will update the guide. :)

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    "
    FriX wrote:
    Hi.
    First i'd like to say i love this build and i have been playing it since start of legacy, really fun and simple.

    I recently switched to atziri's acuity version and i feel confused. I lost ~200hp and i don't feel doing more damage at all. Maybe i'm missing something but i only have 6% chance to crit and i think it is too low to have elemental overload constantly up. I still don't have "increased critical strikes" in my 6L but then when i think about it its basically switching elemental focus which gives 59% elemental damage for 40% from elemental overload.

    My buffed damage now (in hideout, without flasks) is 55k, before atziri's i had 73. I'm not saying that this version of the build is bad, maybe i'm just missing something very important and i would like someone who plays it to explain.

    My character name is Frixxerr.

    Thank you for your time.



    A drop in damage is normal because you are no longer having 100% chance to hit (from losing resolute technique). You will need to aim for 90% chance to hit with EO skill tree. You will see a damage increase when EO is active in your buff bar.

    Consider getting Slaughter and Versatility from the skill tree. These 2 nodes will help push your chance to hit higher.

    Increased Critical Strike gem is mandatory as it will push your chance to crit over 15% (the higher the better). This will ensure EO is up most of the time.

    For gems setup, you can consider replacing Melee Physical damage with Accuracy or Faster Attack (more chance to proc EO) gem.



    I see, i have been playing with critical strikes for ~1 hour and i see EO being up most of the time, im at 79% accuracy and i will get versatility as soon as i get skill points. Can't really swap to rat's nest because of lack of dexterity for atziri's acuity and the fact that i have +40% cyclone dmg on my devoto.

    I guess i'm just going to be stuck at 5.5k hp because i can't squeeze anymore

    FriX
    May 06, 2017 09:50:45 AM

    "
    A drop in damage is normal because you are no longer having 100% chance to hit (from losing resolute technique). You will need to aim for 90% chance to hit with EO skill tree. You will see a damage increase when EO is active in your buff bar.

    Consider getting Slaughter and Versatility from the skill tree. These 2 nodes will help push your chance to hit higher.

    Increased Critical Strike gem is mandatory as it will push your chance to crit over 15% (the higher the better). This will ensure EO is up most of the time.

    For gems setup, you can consider replacing Melee Physical damage with Accuracy or Faster Attack (more chance to proc EO) gem.

    Actually´╝îi dont think there is a dps improvement on EO.
    To get EO, u have to spend 5 more nodes(6-1 for RT). Then exchange MPD to ICS.
    lets see what we can get from 5 nodes and MPD
    Without RT, optimistically we can get 90% accuracy. and then EO 40% boost.
    The EO's improvement is 1.4*0.9=1.26 26% boost

    With RT, 5 nodes we can get Cleaving, 92% increased phy damage. Normally we dont get more than 600% increased phy&ele&fire&aoe damage from passive tree and gear, then 92% increased phy damage is equal 92%/600%=15.33%
    and cyclone builds at least 30% of the total damage, MPD's 49% more phy damage is equal 49%*30%=14.7%
    Overall, with RT we get 115.33%*114.7%=1.32 32% boost
    cyclone is doing at least 30% dps, if more, there are more differences.

    So my conclusion is, ONLY IF getting enough crit from other than ICS gem on CYCLONE, EO is worth the nodes.
    By the way, without RT u have to spend some nodes on accuracy, or get accuracy from ring, which means draw back on resist.


    All above is my calculation. i dont have that much currency to take a try. Just some thoughts.

    pantxike
    May 06, 2017 16:22:01 PM

    "
    kira1414 wrote:

    I would suggest you to get Xoph's Blood next. It is priced at 140 chaos now. If you do vendor recipes that give you 2 chaos, you can obtain 140 chaos within 2 days of farming dried lake. If you push for it, you can get it in 1 day. Start farming now and you will have Xoph's Blood before coming Monday. ;)

    For chest piece, besides Carcass and Cospri, you can seriously consider Bronn's Lithe. It is perfect fit for the build.

    On skill trees, you can pick tank version as it provide the most survivability. You can switch to ignite based trees when you have better gears and want to push for more damage.


    In standard i think it's like 3 ex for a Xoph's Blood...
    But i am starting to save, have 1 ex an couple of chaos.

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 44% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 219% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.



    Would you think this Bronn's its worth yo try to 6socket and 5 or 6 linked ? While i am saving for Xoph's.

    Ty very much for the response, big help bro. And sorry for my bad english xD

    Troomper
    May 06, 2017 21:37:24 PM

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 48% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 235% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    Lunartuna
    May 07, 2017 04:28:34 AM

    Bronn's Lithe
    Cutthroat's Garb
    Click to expand
  • +2 to Level of Socketed Movement Gems
  • 10% increased Attack Speed
  • 48% increased Damage with Movement Skills
  • 235% increased Evasion Rating
  • 10% increased Movement Speed
  • 15% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've used a Movement Skill Recently
  • Forget your kite shield. Just put the biggest man

    in the field between you and the archers.

    hmm

    Lunartuna
    May 07, 2017 04:29:57 AM
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