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Parhelius wrote:

Is it recommended to go with a short bow then? The bonus MS for a Maraketh bow is quite appealing, I have 321 dex; 293 without items.


Maraketh bow is better for MS but issue with Maraketh bow is coloring. The more dex requirement bow has the harder or rather more expensive it get's to get off colors.

Sidad
Jul 06, 2019 23:09:03 PM

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Lisonn wrote:
Watcher's Eye
Prismatic Jewel
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  • 6% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 5% increased maximum Life
  • 5% increased maximum Mana
  • +21% to Damage over Time Multiplier while affected by Malevolence
  • You gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill while affected by Haste
  • One by one, they stood their ground against a creature

    they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,

    and one by one, they became a part of it.



    Price of WE like that or similar start at about 9-10 ex

    My question is - is it worth it? is it such a big damage boost?


    I get 36k damage from mine.
    Watcher's Eye
    Prismatic Jewel
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  • 4% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 6% increased maximum Life
  • 6% increased maximum Mana
  • +6% chance to Evade Attacks while affected by Grace
  • +20% to Damage over Time Multiplier while affected by Malevolence
  • Gain Arcane Surge for 4 seconds when you create Consecrated Ground while affected by Zealotry
  • One by one, they stood their ground against a creature

    they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,

    and one by one, they became a part of it.



    imo, as end game item it is worth spending 9-10 ex on that item. Even more so considering getting currency this league is not that hard. Especially if you get mod that goes with aura you are using. But you can do just fine without it if you dont want to spend that much currency on that item.

    Sidad
    Jul 06, 2019 23:19:33 PM

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    Parhelius wrote:
    Is it better to craft than to buy a crafted bow?


    It is better to craft since you can save some currency but only if you are lucky since getting '+1 to socketed gems' might be costly.

    Sidad
    Jul 06, 2019 23:32:02 PM

    I mean, if you think my bows bad simply because of the dex requirement then that's your opinion. I've found in this build dex isn't that hard to get nor is it hard to get to 212. Even without my ring, I have the dex requirement.

    With the flexibility in this build, you could even take a couple dex nodes to get rid of the additional dex on my gear.

    smit9352
    Jul 07, 2019 00:07:36 AM

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    smit9352 wrote:
    I mean, if you think my bows bad simply because of the dex requirement then that's your opinion. I've found in this build dex isn't that hard to get nor is it hard to get to 212. Even without my ring, I have the dex requirement.

    With the flexibility in this build, you could even take a couple dex nodes to get rid of the additional dex on my gear.

    Without your ring you're missing 9 dex even with a dex implicit amulet. 'Taking a couple of dex nodes' just for the sake of it is wasteful and inefficient (because the tree is stretched out) when you're sitting on 4 2-point jewel sockets available, not to mention extra curse, or flask wheel, or int cluster with Utmost intelligence for an Eldritch knowledge jewel setup.

    chaoval
    Jul 07, 2019 00:18:07 AM

    @smit9352 Your bow is fine since it's already crafted. In case where you want to craft ED 6-link bow high dex requirement on bow might make it harder/more expensive to get right colors when crafting and you'll need items or skill points to get that extra dex requirement. btw if you want to save skill point go to Acrobatics cluster from 'Revenge of the Hunted' cluster instead of 'Blod Drinker' cluster.

    Sidad
    Jul 07, 2019 00:44:03 AM

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    Lisonn wrote:
    Watcher's Eye
    Prismatic Jewel
    Click to expand
  • 6% increased maximum Energy Shield
  • 5% increased maximum Life
  • 5% increased maximum Mana
  • +21% to Damage over Time Multiplier while affected by Malevolence
  • You gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill while affected by Haste
  • One by one, they stood their ground against a creature

    they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,

    and one by one, they became a part of it.



    Price of WE like that or similar start at about 9-10 ex

    My question is - is it worth it? is it such a big damage boost?


    That looks like the exact same one I bought. Probably wont find one with a Haste mod for 9-10ex, but the NACDOT mod does start around that, usually paired with a purity or some other "useless" mod. I bought that one because I use Haste/Vaal Haste, I can say yes, unequivocally the cost is/was worth it.

    psyonix
    Jul 07, 2019 01:01:21 AM

    Just wondering what experiences people are having with using this build for glacier farming?

    With my usual end-game guy, I've just been using a Bisco's Collar for MF and replacing some life nodes with AOE/damage nodes and it's been working really well so far. However, my main problem is that I am pretty much never able to insta-pop legion spawns. I get 90% of them fine with the initial cast, but there always seems to be 2-3 random pockets of mobs that somehow dodge my ED chain entirely and I have to spend the majority of the 10 second timer dashing around finding them.

    My ED tooltip DPS is around 475k and I'm using level 1 contagion to avoid contagion killing mobs prematurely. I'm not sure if ED/contagion is meant to be able to insta-pop mobs like those Ice Nova builds or if I'm lacking something. I've tried to stack as much AOE as I can without gimping my other stats, but am wondering if I need to start using something like a Dying Sun.

    scrambled777
    Jul 07, 2019 02:02:23 AM

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    scrambled777 wrote:
    Just wondering what experiences people are having with using this build for glacier farming?

    With my usual end-game guy, I've just been using a Bisco's Collar for MF and replacing some life nodes with AOE/damage nodes and it's been working really well so far. However, my main problem is that I am pretty much never able to insta-pop legion spawns. I get 90% of them fine with the initial cast, but there always seems to be 2-3 random pockets of mobs that somehow dodge my ED chain entirely and I have to spend the majority of the 10 second timer dashing around finding them.

    My ED tooltip DPS is around 475k and I'm using level 1 contagion to avoid contagion killing mobs prematurely. I'm not sure if ED/contagion is meant to be able to insta-pop mobs like those Ice Nova builds or if I'm lacking something. I've tried to stack as much AOE as I can without gimping my other stats, but am wondering if I need to start using something like a Dying Sun.


    I use Soulrend, so i have to work a bit harder. I can usually only get a whole side tagged with a few remaining on the other side, All I know is I made about 20 exalts in a couple days (not full days, but from Wednesday night after work, most of Thursday and a few hours yesterday evening) of farming it. I haven't really stopped farming it, but I'm also doing other content so I'm not going as hard on it as I was before. That said, I started this morning with about 2ex in the bank (made some big purchases) and after a few hours I'm up to 6. I'm sure other folks might be getting more out of it, but I'm pretty happy with my ROI considering farming is essentially free with the way my atlas is setup.

    psyonix
    Jul 07, 2019 02:17:22 AM

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    psyonix wrote:
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    scrambled777 wrote:
    Just wondering what experiences people are having with using this build for glacier farming?

    With my usual end-game guy, I've just been using a Bisco's Collar for MF and replacing some life nodes with AOE/damage nodes and it's been working really well so far. However, my main problem is that I am pretty much never able to insta-pop legion spawns. I get 90% of them fine with the initial cast, but there always seems to be 2-3 random pockets of mobs that somehow dodge my ED chain entirely and I have to spend the majority of the 10 second timer dashing around finding them.

    My ED tooltip DPS is around 475k and I'm using level 1 contagion to avoid contagion killing mobs prematurely. I'm not sure if ED/contagion is meant to be able to insta-pop mobs like those Ice Nova builds or if I'm lacking something. I've tried to stack as much AOE as I can without gimping my other stats, but am wondering if I need to start using something like a Dying Sun.


    I use Soulrend, so i have to work a bit harder. I can usually only get a whole side tagged with a few remaining on the other side, All I know is I made about 20 exalts in a couple days (not full days, but from Wednesday night after work, most of Thursday and a few hours yesterday evening) of farming it. I haven't really stopped farming it, but I'm also doing other content so I'm not going as hard on it as I was before. That said, I started this morning with about 2ex in the bank (made some big purchases) and after a few hours I'm up to 6. I'm sure other folks might be getting more out of it, but I'm pretty happy with my ROI considering farming is essentially free with the way my atlas is setup.


    Yeah the returns I'm getting are insane compared to just regular endgame mapping and bossing. I had 1 ex when I started like less than 2 days ago, and have 13 ex now just from pure currency drops and selling 2-3 big ticket items. Definitely happy with the results so far, especially since my build is far from optimized for speed MF clears.

    scrambled777
    Jul 07, 2019 02:26:22 AM
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