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Zeratul_PL wrote:
HI.

I wonder - is there any specific reason, why we use Lightning Warp as our movement skill?

If there is no...

Can i change the Lightning Warp setup (3 gem slots) into:
Flame Dash (i really like this one for moveing)
Zealorty aura (i think it's better for crit-arc than Wrath)
+ something defensive, like Fortify to link with Flame Dash

And ofc, after a one league break - THANKS TO ENKI!! For his amazing job, constantly improving, updating and supporting this build and his guid!


Flame dash cannot be linked with fortify. Whirling blades can, however you still need a teleport skill regardless, to cross terrains or else a few maps will be impossibly unpleasant to run. So that already takes up 3 gem slots. A defensive aura can be Flesh and Stone, Sand stance. This could free up Blind support from the cwdt armaggedon brand setup for Onslaught support for more damage and mobility.

Another niche gem is enduring cry for 3 endurance charges, including in boss fights while running around spamming Arc and OoS. 3 endurance charges generation, why not right? The 4 slots for movement skills from Enki setup can be broken down to flame dash, enduring cry, cwdt + cold snap for 3 frenzy charges in maps (but requires you take dmg to trigger cold snap). The build can have 9 charges of 3 different types up at the same time.

Not to mention cwdt immortal call can consume 3 endurance charges to grant you about 30% less elemental dmg taken and 66% less physical damage taken for about 2 seconds. Aside from life leech and es leech from Soul Thief notable to protecy mana and MoM, coupled with 2 dodge keystones, and if you're able to get up to 7k total life, quartz flask and Vaal grace (if there is a gem slot), this build has a decent amount of defense.

If you choose to run Eldritch Battery with MoM you can have 3 auras - flesh and Stone, wrath/zealotry and clarity.

Hologram_o
Sep 10, 2019 18:40:36 PM

Yeah, i though so about spell echo xD I h8 it becouse it locks you in place for 0.5-0.7 sec, annoying :D
One more thing, is it ok to ditch teleport and support gems for it, and put Flame Dash, Conductivity and CwDt, and take with oils Whisper of Doom?

kokorolee
Sep 10, 2019 20:11:35 PM

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kokorolee wrote:
Yeah, i though so about spell echo xD I h8 it becouse it locks you in place for 0.5-0.7 sec, annoying :D
One more thing, is it ok to ditch teleport and support gems for it, and put Flame Dash, Conductivity and CwDt, and take with oils Whisper of Doom?


If you want to make use of 2 curses as maximum number, then I don't think cwdt conductivity is a good setup. This is because you have to take dmg to activate it and in some cases it is dangerous to do so against bosses or rippy maps. So blasphemy and conductivity would have it up at all time, but this reserves 35% Mana so very hard to fit in. While this curse is a good choice, I think assassin's mark is still the strongest one as the build invests in critical strike chance and multiplier. There is an amulet with 100% reduced Mana reservation for conductivity so you might wanna try that. If you want to run up to 3 auras you are forced to go EB to keep MoM effect.

Hologram_o
Sep 10, 2019 20:54:20 PM

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If you want to make use of 2 curses as maximum number, then I don't think cwdt conductivity is a good setup. This is because you have to take dmg to activate it and in some cases it is dangerous to do so against bosses or rippy maps. So blasphemy and conductivity would have it up at all time, but this reserves 35% Mana so very hard to fit in. While this curse is a good choice, I think assassin's mark is still the strongest one as the build invests in critical strike chance and multiplier. There is an amulet with 100% reduced Mana reservation for conductivity so you might wanna try that. If you want to run up to 3 auras you are forced to go EB to keep MoM effect.


Ty for answer! Yeah, that sound good. I still dont like ligh. warp, so ill try what u said, or something else xD

kokorolee
Sep 10, 2019 21:09:23 PM

@subcutan
Don't have the old version anymore. EB takes more investment to get similar hitpool and damage, and still has two big disadvantages in losing dodge and forcing us into needing certain gearpieces. It just doesn't fit the intended purpose and direction of this build at all.

The amount of evasion you can get without compromising more important affixes barely makes a difference. You'd gain roughly 10% evade chance with T1 Evasion bases, against blinded enemies it's only +5% compared to wearing no evasion pieces. If you have the currency to craft this very specific gear then go ahead, but it's not going to do enough to be worth it.

@FinestBlue
Work on your flasks and replace the Skull Eye ring with Essence Worm and your amulet with a life+ crit multi one. Also get jewel sockets asap for more life.

@PaulMarch
Can't see that anywhere, is your PoB updated?

@BlueBZS
It's probably the best damage option. I'll work on a list of all anointed passives tomorrow.

@Sail686
Nope, that enchant exists for all damaging skills and in most cases it's pretty underwhelming, since it's just additive with all other increased damage sources.

@webas
5.1k + 2.3k in Standard, 4k + 1.9k in Hardcore Blight. Your low life- and manapools come down to some of the choices you made.

@Kittentheboss
I personally didn't like their unreliability and huge cooldown. They were pretty much only ever useful against stationary bosses.

@Zeratul_PL
It's the best movement ability without any restrictions or cooldowns. It's too easy to run out of Flame Dash charges and then it's absolutely terrible, especially if you had to backtrack because of an Abyss, Legion, Blight or whatever else. The other skills either have the same issue or are too slow without lots of investment just for that specific movement skill, and gates you into using specific weapons, something I don't want in this build any longer.

@Hologram_o
Gotta have to correct you there, LW is only a 3L now. Clarity would make no sense with EB, guess you mean Discipline. Speaking of EB, the payoff is not worth it for this build as mentioned in a reply above.

@kokorolee
Casting animation speeds up once you get more cast speed, it's not really an issue later on. Damage is not an issue for this build, so i'd rather go with CwDt + Enfeeble if you really can live with Flame Dash. Just keep in mind that bosses have large less curse effect modifiers, and hexproof is a pretty common mapmod.

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After playing around with the current setup in both Standard and Hardcore Blight for a while, I can confidently say that mana sustain is not an issue at all. While the mana flask takes up a flask slot, it opened up a Watcher's Eye affix slot which is more consistent damage in longer fights and with Essence Extraction and an Enduring Eternal Mana Flask it's pretty much impossible to ever run out of mana flask charges. Another perk is that it's available on demand, which is where both mana leech and EB struggled, best example being Chimera's smoke phase.

I've added some videos of the current setup. Infact it works so well that I didn't even notice that i've been doing all this endgame stuff without Immortal Call because of a lack of chroms.

Enki91
Sep 10, 2019 21:11:06 PM



Thanks for the reply!

I was wondering if someone could look at my stuff and offer suggestions? I would really appreciate it!

BlueBZS
Sep 11, 2019 02:30:47 AM

In Act 6 of the Full Leveling section, the setup for cwdt/wave of conviction/blind shows the lock level for wave as 9. The correct level is 7. The gem setup section has it correct, only the leveling section is wrong.

Thanks for the guide, this is my goto build every league.

Nareese
Sep 11, 2019 03:10:16 AM

Hi awesome work. I'm trying to follow and learn everything in the guide but i'm noob to the game. Is Herald of thunder bad or negative for our build? Thanks for the work

retrolo
Sep 11, 2019 05:06:40 AM

Is it bad if I use hybrid hallowed flask and not pure mana? I havent decided on flask setup yet.

FEW TIPS FROM ME:

1.Other flaska all have surgeons for it and I feel thats superior because it fills up quickly.

2.precision gives ~3% crit at lvl1.

3. Running clarity at lvl1 is insane value with watchers eye 10% damage taken from mana before life!

4. Enfeeble on hit gloves is BiS.

Having assasin mark on ring is good but great only with whispers of doom second curse oil on amulet which is expensive at the moment.

5. Assassin is strong with its ascendancy..! Im not with witch but I enjoy this build.

webas
Sep 11, 2019 07:40:11 AM

What was your criteria for rating the Amulet enchants from "best" to "worst" ?
Soul of steel I kinda understand because of the defensive stats, what about the DPS ones? Straight POB comparison shows completely different results for me.

dizika
Sep 11, 2019 12:34:16 PM
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