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I have played too since release. At first my two spectral thrower Scions died around level 50 but I feel Templar build made "by the book" is stronk. In the beginning it didn't feel good at all since I got big holes in defenses but when stuff is started to stack it's becoming stronger in cruel. I am on level 42 now.

1) I have some big issues with dps tho. I feel that heavy strike is very slow to harvest enemy groups. I tried to lightning strike and it's way better but does pretty tiny damage to single target. Maybe there will be good nodes to pick later on that boost my dps or something...

2) Is your gear updated in the first page? It looks different from your description.

3) did you maintain strict 75 cap or more on every difficulty level? I am not on cruel little bit lacking some resistances and probably will die on merciless if can't get that fixed. I am looking for some help from item upgrades and nodes.

Thanks for good guide which was surprisingly effective build!

Possu81
Nov 15, 2013 01:51:08 AM

Gear in the spoiler.

Spoiler
Vengeance Bite
Chest Splitter
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  • +16 to Dexterity
  • 99% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 17 to 38 Physical Damage
  • Adds 30 to 51 Cold Damage
  • 15% increased Attack Speed
  • Sorrow Shelter
    Colosseum Plate
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  • +110 to Armour
  • 38% increased Armour
  • +96 to maximum Life
  • Regenerate 3 Life per second
  • +29% to Fire Resistance
  • +24% to Chaos Resistance
  • 12% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Rapture Glance
    Fencer Helm
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  • +55 to maximum Life
  • 15% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +11% to Fire Resistance
  • +9% to Lightning Resistance
  • Crest of Perandus
    Pine Buckler
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  • +76 to maximum Life
  • Regenerate 7.4 Life per second
  • +30% to Lightning Resistance
  • 0.6% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
  • +10% Chance to Block
  • "With piety and justice."

    - Perandus family motto

    Gloom Grip
    Paua Ring
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  • +23 to maximum Mana
  • +23 to Strength
  • Adds 6 to 14 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • +34 to Accuracy Rating
  • +42 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +27% to Lightning Resistance
  • 10% increased Light Radius
  • Blight Spiral
    Prismatic Ring
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  • +9% to all Elemental Resistances
  • Adds 3 to 5 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 5% increased Cast Speed
  • 50% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
  • +31% to Cold Resistance
  • Stone of Lazhwar
    Lapis Amulet
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  • +22 to Intelligence
  • 15% Chance to Block Spell Damage
  • 15% increased Cast Speed
  • +35 to maximum Mana
  • You are slow, foolish and ignorant.

    I am not.

    Mind Goad
    Serpentscale Boots
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  • +18 to Strength
  • 17% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +78 to maximum Life
  • +13% to Fire Resistance
  • 25% increased Movement Speed
  • 9% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • Behemoth Strap
    Studded Belt
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  • 28% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • +82 to maximum Life
  • +29% to Fire Resistance
  • +41% to Cold Resistance
  • +29% to Lightning Resistance
  • Aurseize
    Steelscale Gauntlets
    Click to expand
  • 46% increased Armour and Evasion
  • 47% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 5% reduced Movement Speed
  • Wealth is not to be borne lightly.




    Using that axe + the chest combo + the other +phys items, my HS paper DPS is ~6k.

    Swapping determination for hatred, it get's a bit silly at that point... =)

    Taking out determination though means that what little makes it through my shield really really hurts, so for bosses it's a must.

    The one boss that confounds me is the orchard Devourer boss, who has on a couple of occasions one shot me... =\

    I've found that my anvil
    The Anvil
    Amber Amulet
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  • +26 to Strength
  • 10% Chance to Block Attack Damage
  • 10% reduced Attack Speed
  • 10% reduced Cast Speed
  • +415 to Armour
  • +30 Life gained when you Block
  • +15 Mana gained when you Block
  • 20% reduced Movement Speed
  • +3% to maximum Chance to Block Attack Damage
  • Reflects 200 to 250 Physical Damage to Attackers on Block
  • Forge your Perseverance on the Anvil of Faith.

    has been getting a lot less time equipped. While I'm wearing the Laz, melee mobs aren't really an issue and spellcasters are ezimode. Swapping in the anvil, spellcasters absolutely destroy me (skele maps are terrible for that). Given that it reduces attack speed + run speed, it's becoming more of an impediment than a boon.

    That being said, I have zero mana leech and regen apart from my mana leech gem, so if I 'stall' (get leeched or do a cyclone without warlords applying), I have no way to kickstart my main attack again apart from swapping in the anvil and blocking a couple of hits to get mana back.

    Also, drops off map bosses seem way up atm. I picked up four uniques in 4 maps last night (two had twinned bosses). Also managed to pick up about 8 maps from four, which was a pleasant surprise.

    Still haven't replaced my overlevel enduring cry (/sadface) but otherwise the CODT gems are still clicking along well.

    Saviourself
    Nov 15, 2013 02:00:54 AM

    "
    Sovyn wrote:
    "
    nbriles2000 wrote:

    Now the real question. I'm moving resists from my belt in hopes to squeeze some more damage out of that slot. I can either grab a rustic sash with as much phys dmg/ life/ armor and that extra fire resists OR grab a Magnate. I'll still be shy a little fire res but that can be made up in a ring or something, and I'll be out a little life (i'm only at like 2k right now at lvl 65) but I think that extra damage would help a lot...
    Thoughts? Suggestions?


    Best is a rare rustic sash with a good roll on the damage plus high armour plus high life, and a resist you need. Meginord's is a good second choice. Magnate, not so good.

    As per usual, you are correct. After posting this I found out you can't get a rustic sash with +elemental dmg so I can get much more damage from gloves than I can from belt. I'm going to get gloves with as many damage mods as I can afford with life and armor and finish getting the rest of my resists on my belt. Now I just need one of the 5 people I pm'd about gloves to message me back!

    nbriles2000
    Nov 15, 2013 02:31:22 AM

    How's the DPS with this build? My Blender does 15k DPS and attacks and darts around the map like a mofo - LOVE IT.

    It's hard adapting to this build. Given I'm only under level 30 :P

    Also - Spectral Throw or...?

    zythyl
    Nov 15, 2013 02:43:34 AM

    "
    Possu81 wrote:
    I have played too since release. At first my two spectral thrower Scions died around level 50 but I feel Templar build made "by the book" is stronk. In the beginning it didn't feel good at all since I got big holes in defenses but when stuff is started to stack it's becoming stronger in cruel. I am on level 42 now.

    1) I have some big issues with dps tho. I feel that heavy strike is very slow to harvest enemy groups. I tried to lightning strike and it's way better but does pretty tiny damage to single target. Maybe there will be good nodes to pick later on that boost my dps or something...

    2) Is your gear updated in the first page? It looks different from your description.

    3) did you maintain strict 75 cap or more on every difficulty level? I am not on cruel little bit lacking some resistances and probably will die on merciless if can't get that fixed. I am looking for some help from item upgrades and nodes.

    Thanks for good guide which was surprisingly effective build!


    Hello Possu81. :)

    1) Perhaps you could use both attack skills. LS for packs and HS for singles/bosses.

    2) Gear is current. I'm self found exclusively, so the items are decent considering that -- it's a really hardcore way to play as you literally find *nothing* that you can use. If you trade, you can easily do better. I don't have replacement gems for CwDT after the nerf in 1.0.1 as I had leveled them up too high. Other than that, I don't see how my gear differs from my description. I do suggest uniques in the guide, but I never say they are required. Perhaps some better formatting is needed to clarify this.

    3) Yes, I did my best to always stay capped on elemental resistances. I did use Purity in my mid levels until they nerfed the snot out of it. :) By Merciless the recommended tree should provide a little more resists, but it's already more generous than most builds on this front, so it comes down to getting decent gear.

    Glad you are finding things to be effective so far.

    Sovyn
    Nov 15, 2013 02:54:50 AM

    "
    Saviourself wrote:

    The one boss that confounds me is the orchard Devourer boss, who has on a couple of occasions one shot me... =\

    I've found that my anvil
    The Anvil
    Amber Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +26 to Strength
  • 10% Chance to Block Attack Damage
  • 10% reduced Attack Speed
  • 10% reduced Cast Speed
  • +415 to Armour
  • +30 Life gained when you Block
  • +15 Mana gained when you Block
  • 20% reduced Movement Speed
  • +3% to maximum Chance to Block Attack Damage
  • Reflects 200 to 250 Physical Damage to Attackers on Block
  • Forge your Perseverance on the Anvil of Faith.

    has been getting a lot less time equipped. While I'm wearing the Laz, melee mobs aren't really an issue and spellcasters are ezimode. Swapping in the anvil, spellcasters absolutely destroy me (skele maps are terrible for that). Given that it reduces attack speed + run speed, it's becoming more of an impediment than a boon.


    Thanks for thr update on your progress.

    I ran into a twinned Orchard map a couple days ago and realized that was a mistake.

    I mention Lazhwar first in the guide for a reason, I do think it's the best choice.

    However, Anvil does have mana benefits as you mentioned.

    I prefer to tune my attack skill so that 2% mana leech can keep up, obviously some things have to be sacrificed without a Soul Taker.

    Sovyn
    Nov 15, 2013 03:04:21 AM

    "
    zythyl wrote:
    How's the DPS with this build? My Blender does 15k DPS and attacks and darts around the map like a mofo - LOVE IT.

    It's hard adapting to this build. Given I'm only under level 30 :P

    Also - Spectral Throw or...?


    What level blender and how many ex worth of gear? Apples to apples or apples to oranges? What's stopping you from using the same transportation abilities/gear on your pally?

    15K DPS is certainly possible with the lazy pally as well, I have probably a dozen users that have beaten that (this is a long thread spanning 9 months.)

    I don't think Spectral Throw is very impressive at all with a 1-hander.

    Most seem to use heavy strike (easiest by far to get right) or infernal blow or double strike or dominating blow (with Soul Taker).

    Have fun. :)

    Sovyn
    Nov 15, 2013 03:11:22 AM

    "
    Sovyn wrote:
    "
    zythyl wrote:
    How's the DPS with this build? My Blender does 15k DPS and attacks and darts around the map like a mofo - LOVE IT.

    It's hard adapting to this build. Given I'm only under level 30 :P

    Also - Spectral Throw or...?


    What level blender and how many ex worth of gear? Apples to apples or apples to oranges? What's stopping you from using the same transportation abilities/gear on your pally?

    15K DPS is certainly possible with the lazy pally as well, I have probably a dozen users that have beaten that (this is a long thread spanning 9 months.)

    I don't think Spectral Throw is very impressive at all with a 1-hander.

    Most seem to use heavy strike (easiest by far to get right) or infernal blow or double strike or dominating blow (with Soul Taker).

    Have fun. :)


    ~12ex worth. And cheers, I'll keep at it :)

    zythyl
    Nov 15, 2013 05:32:30 AM

    As always, props to Sovyn for this gem of a guide.

    I started playing towards the end of Anarchy League and this is my second char. The first one didn't go too well. I started out as self found but once I was able to save currency using the vendor recipe that gives 2 chaos I slowly built up my char. I've purchased BoR twice (the second one being a high roll) and my Lionseye was self found then a near perfect one came along which I couldn't resist as the price was something I could afford.

    I tweaked the build sacrificing life for armor and took the four nodes that offer 8 reduced mana reservation as well as a total of 28% increase in auras. I normally just go in with Determination and Grace but there are times when I drop Determination and replace it with Hatred and when I'm farming, I switch out one of my rings for Andvarius and drop Determination for Purity.

    There are probably other areas that I can tweak but I hate spending currency on crafting and I also am quite impatient when it comes to trading as I am a casual player and when I do play I prefer to just dive right into maps or do Dominus runs.

    Anyway, here's a link to the skill tree I use with the aura nodes as well as the eq I use. With determination and grace up, I'm at 15650(63%) armor and 7900(44%) evasion. Once again, thanks Sovyn for a great guide to build up on. If there's anything I can do to improve this build, lemme know. :)

    Passive skill tree build

    Current EQ

    Spoiler
    Rainbowstride
    Conjurer Boots
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  • 7% Chance to Block Spell Damage
  • 164% increased Energy Shield
  • +99 to maximum Mana
  • +20% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 20% increased Movement Speed
  • "They say that you should take life's troubles in your stride.

    Some men have a longer stride than others."

    - Gaius Sentari

    Brimstone Lock
    Cloth Belt
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  • 17% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • +72 to maximum Life
  • +33% to Cold Resistance
  • +40% to Lightning Resistance
  • 27% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
  • Aurseize
    Steelscale Gauntlets
    Click to expand
  • 56% increased Armour and Evasion
  • 43% increased Rarity of Items found
  • +15% to all Elemental Resistances
  • 5% reduced Movement Speed
  • Wealth is not to be borne lightly.

    The Bringer of Rain
    Nightmare Bascinet
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  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Melee Physical Damage
  • Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Faster Attacks
  • Socketed Gems are supported by Level 18 Blind
  • 15% Chance to Block Attack Damage
  • Adds 20 to 30 Physical Damage to Attacks
  • 291% increased Armour and Evasion
  • +220 to maximum Life
  • 10% chance to gain an Endurance Charge when you Block
  • Can't use Chest armour
  • Extra gore
  • "What lies beneath your feet?!"

    "Sacred ground, watered with tears of blood!"

    Lioneye's Remorse
    Pinnacle Tower Shield
    Click to expand
  • 249% increased Armour
  • +99 to maximum Life
  • 5% reduced Movement Speed
  • 20% increased Stun and Block Recovery
  • -25 Physical Damage taken from Projectile Attacks
  • +5% Chance to Block
  • Marceus' unblemished shield is a testament

    to his arrogance... and his fate.

    Stone of Lazhwar
    Lapis Amulet
    Click to expand
  • +30 to Intelligence
  • 15% Chance to Block Spell Damage
  • 13% increased Cast Speed
  • +46 to maximum Mana
  • You are slow, foolish and ignorant.

    I am not.

    Chimeric Song
    Siege Axe
    Click to expand
  • 131% increased Physical Damage
  • Adds 18 to 38 Physical Damage
  • 13% increased Critical Strike Chance
  • +20 to Accuracy Rating
  • Damnation Loop
    Prismatic Ring
    Click to expand
  • +12% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +69 to maximum Life
  • 0.4% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana
  • +2 Mana gained on Kill
  • 12% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills
  • Spirit Knot
    Amethyst Ring
    Click to expand
  • +12% to Chaos Resistance
  • +10 to Intelligence
  • +22 to maximum Energy Shield
  • +16% to all Elemental Resistances
  • +33% to Fire Resistance

  • DrewC
    Nov 15, 2013 08:01:42 AM

    "
    DrewC wrote:
    As always, props to Sovyn for this gem of a guide.
    .....


    Hi DrewC, thanks for the recognition and offer of help! Can't think of anything right now, but I appreciate that. Your gear looks pretty good! I like that you have 20% quality gems on your attack skill. Nice armour and evasion numbers for sure. I assume the armour is before molten shell too. Looks like the route you took to sovereignty is almost as good as the pre-nerf Inner Force was.

    Sovyn
    Nov 15, 2013 08:58:39 AM
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